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frantik 03-18-15 05:24 PM

Using a threaded fork with a threadless headset / stem.. should i fill threads?
 
I've got about 2cm of unthreaded steerer tube under the stem, which is about 2/3 of my stem and well above the lower bolt. I figure it should be safe for street riding.. is this a good assessment?

Also do I need to fill the threads on the top part that is under the stem? I've seen people mentioning JB Weld when I did searches on this topic. Is it just to prevent marring of the stem?

http://i.imgur.com/xplsLy7.jpg

jyl 03-18-15 05:27 PM

Hmm. I'd saw off the excess.

frantik 03-18-15 05:34 PM


Originally Posted by jyl (Post 17642001)
Hmm. I'd saw off the excess.

Yeah I will do that before any thread filling.. no point in filling threads that will be cut off :lol:

bikeman715 03-18-15 05:41 PM

why not use a treaded headset ? which would look & work better for the bike . If the steering post is still too long then cut it .

hueyhoolihan 03-18-15 06:24 PM

if you don't want to get a threaded headset and a quill stem, and are willing to take any chance that arrangement may present, and i don't think there is much, i would just throw a couple of spacers over the threads on top, if you didn't want to cut it, and call it good.

and, yes Martha, that's a ghetto setup if ever there was one. :lol: nice to see someone that's not too picky.

FastJake 03-18-15 06:26 PM

Is the steerer tube steel? If so you should be fine, I have a couple franken-bikes setup this way. You just need to make sure the bottom half (at least, more is better) of the stem is clamping on the unthreaded section. Classic case where the steerer tube is too long to run threaded, but too short for a "proper" threadless setup.

I have never bothered to fill in the threads. But keep in mind they will probably get a little bunged up clamping the stem around them.

frantik 03-18-15 06:35 PM


Originally Posted by bikeman715 (Post 17642038)
why not use a treaded headset ? which would look & work better for the bike . If the steering post is still too long then cut it .

i suppose i could do that, though then i'd need to get a 1-1/8" quill stem. being able to switch to a threaded headset might be a good reason not to fill the threads though

JohnDThompson 03-18-15 06:48 PM


Originally Posted by frantik (Post 17642193)
i suppose i could do that, though then i'd need to get a 1-1/8" quill stem. being able to switch to a threaded headset might be a good reason not to fill the threads though

There are threadless adapters you can use instead of a quill stem:

http://media.nashbar.com/images/nash...-NCL-ANGLE.jpg

Nashbar Stem Adaptor

frantik 03-18-15 07:09 PM


Originally Posted by FastJake (Post 17642166)
Is the steerer tube steel? If so you should be fine, I have a couple franken-bikes setup this way. You just need to make sure the bottom half (at least, more is better) of the stem is clamping on the unthreaded section. Classic case where the steerer tube is too long to run threaded, but too short for a "proper" threadless setup.

I have never bothered to fill in the threads. But keep in mind they will probably get a little bunged up clamping the stem around them.

yeah steerer is steel. as you mention, fork is "in between" sizes... lightweight steel forks for 26" wheels are tough to come by, so i'm making due with what I've been able to find.

Glad to hear that i can get away without filling the threads; i don't mind some marks on the inside of the stem.

dsbrantjr 03-18-15 07:27 PM

I wouldn't bother filling the threads, and I doubt that there would be much marking on the stem unless you tightened the clamp bolts excessively tight; there is still a fairly large surface area to distribute the force. And please grease the bolt threads, one already looks rusted. Might want to spend the pennies for stainless fasteners; you should still grease them.

frantik 03-18-15 07:44 PM


Originally Posted by dsbrantjr (Post 17642330)
And please grease the bolt threads, one already looks rusted. Might want to spend the pennies for stainless fasteners; you should still grease them.

that "rust" is actually grease. brand new (old stock) stem

squirtdad 03-18-15 09:39 PM

I don't see a star nut setup? how are you tensioning the fork? I am more of a stem guy, but what i know of threadless is you need the starnut to hold the fork on, and the stem is just to attach the handle bar.

frantik 03-19-15 02:42 AM


Originally Posted by squirtdad (Post 17642657)
I don't see a star nut setup? how are you tensioning the fork? I am more of a stem guy, but what i know of threadless is you need the starnut to hold the fork on, and the stem is just to attach the handle bar.

i haven't installed the star nut yet. the pic was just to show how much of the unthreaded fork under the stem :) I think I will trim the steerer down before I install the star nut

fietsbob 03-19-15 08:31 AM

a split internally threaded sleeve with the OD of 9/8" will both fill the cut thread, reinforce, and make the Outside diameter compatible with current stems..


BBB BHP 20 is a quill with a center wedge and its top hex internally threaded for (threadless preload)
often used as a stem raiser , it can go 100% within the steerer , its whole length.

reducing the possibility the fork will fail at the threads cut thin, but not supported inside by the Quill stem.

FastJake 03-19-15 08:46 AM


Originally Posted by fietsbob (Post 17643427)
a split internally threaded sleeve with the OD of 9/8" will both fill the cut thread, reinforce, and make the outside diameter compatible with current stems..

OP's steerer tube is already 1 1/8" threaded.

fietsbob 03-19-15 08:53 AM

BBB BHP 21 is what I got for my threadless stem raiser . I'm too old for a Down on all 4's aero Tuck..

cutting threads weaken tube section than before cut remains a fact, its only a 1/16th wall tube & half that where cut.


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