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Old 05-03-05, 04:09 PM
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need help on picking frames

okay the two frames i am loking at is PREMIUM PRODUCTS FRAME (2005) from albes for $240 or the WE THE PEOPLE PRIMATE "OSATO" FRAME form danscomp for $200 or the omen frame from dans for $180.
which one should i get?
also what type of bb should i choose?
right now i have a gt bike but if iam going to upgrade it why not just build a new bike. then i might sell the gt on ebay or give to some kid in my nehborhood who needs a okay bike.

so what do you think i should i get? my buget is $240 on a frame.

anywhere i can read reviews on these frames?
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Old 05-03-05, 07:24 PM
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don't get the omen; the chain and seatstays are narrow so the tires would rub on your frame
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I'm guessing the GT you have is probably an american BB.
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i know my gt has an american BB
but which frame should i get?
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Old 05-05-05, 03:47 PM
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any one???
did i put this in the right spot?
i hear wtp sucks is this true???

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go with the Premium products frame..... there nice...and WTP...ive heard bad things about there frames...
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get reviews from....... www.bmx-test.com
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Old 05-06-05, 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by KinetikBiker04
go with the Premium products frame..... there nice...and WTP...ive heard bad things about there frames...

The only good thing on the premium is the gusset on the chainstays.
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okay
i think i am going to get the euro bb, but i want a profile ss crank!!! so i dont know yet.
so now i am having a hard time choosing which frame:
my choices are
WTP PRIMATE(the newest one)
and the
Premium Products 2005


very noob question whats a gusset?

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Originally Posted by e30driver
okay
i think i am going to get the euro bb, but i want a profile ss crank!!! so i dont know yet.
so now i am having a hard time choosing which frame:
my choices are
WTP PRIMATE(the newest one)
and the
Premium Products 2005


very noob question whats a gusset?


why would you want a ss crank. It's like 60 ounces.just get a dj or race crank. why are you choosing these frames? because of their price?
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okay queensrider86 you made me think.
okay checked out the dj's i think ill go for those.
the yes thats why iam choosing the frames because of there price. are they any good?
whats wrong with them?
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Originally Posted by e30driver
okay queensrider86 you made me think.
okay checked out the dj's i think ill go for those.
the yes thats why iam choosing the frames because of there price. are they any good?
whats wrong with them?
the premium and primate seem to have similar geomerry, but the primate is about a pound heavier.

If you like one get it, but i prefer american frames such as S&M/Fit, Standard,kink,or fbm
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Originally Posted by queensrider86
The only good thing on the premium is the gusset on the chainstays.
i would have the Premium over the WTP any day/long night/at trails...or somewhere else
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but you don't need a good bike because you can't do anything
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hay queensrider86 where is the premium frame made in? also is the frame 100% CHROMOLY?
i couldent find any info on were the frame is made.
and i do plan to get better at doing tricks!! itll take time!!

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Originally Posted by queensrider86
The only good thing on the premium is the gusset on the chainstays.
Why? It serves no function at all if you're not doing pedal grinds, and simply using thicker tubing on the chainstays belays the need for that extra metal.


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hay queensrider86 where is the premium frame made in? also is the frame 100% CHROMOLY?
Taiwan, and the answer the chromo question is yes.
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Originally Posted by e30driver
and i do plan to get better at doing tricks!! itll take time!!

i was talking to kinetic. i hope you know premium is haro
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Why? It serves no function at all if you're not doing pedal grinds, and simply using thicker tubing on the chainstays belays the need for that extra metal.
true, and i do lots of pedal grinds
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omen or premium would be good i almost bought an omen but got my fit instead and it was the best choice ever GT = YUCKY though.
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Originally Posted by queensrider86
i was talking to kinetic. i hope you know premium is haro
yes i know premium is haro!! is that bad?
so are tiwwan frames bad (the ones made there)?
so whats a good frame from S&M/Fit, Standard,kink,or fbm for $240-250? so what would you recomend?
thanks alot
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Originally Posted by e30driver
yes i know premium is haro!! is that bad?
so are tiwwan frames bad (the ones made there)?
so whats a good frame from S&M/Fit, Standard,kink,or fbm for $240-250? so what would you recomend?
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S&M dirtbike ($250)

Standard 2004 250s ($250) or the nicer version 2004 250s ox ($290) or the Sta ($250)

I ride the Sta, but the ox version.

This is from dans comp

Albes has the kink 2004 cielencki and freebird frames for $225
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save a bit more cash and throw down on a solid or t1.
i'm riding a solid kp ripper which is now known as the euro killing machine. been riding it for about 2 years now with no problems. everyone i know never has problems with their solid or t1 frames.
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thanks Queensrider86
man thoes frames are heavy but if it will last then thats allright
well i was looking but i dont know what to get
the standard 250 s
or
the sta mark 4
whats the diffrence besides where the rear break is located?

and X matt
the solid is friken heavy 8 pounds for the ones in my price range!!!
which is $250

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holy cow iam deffinatly going with standard because they have a life time warrenty!!!!
but one question
on the standard web site https://www.standardbyke.com the frames are like 5pounds and 14 oz. while on albes and dans they say they are 6 pounds and 5 oz. why the diffrences???

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Old 05-10-05, 01:58 PM
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albes looks like they mess up the weights alot. the frames on the standard website are the ones with the oxplatinum tubing. i have the 5lb version of the sta mark 4, because it is ox platinum
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so what is the ones with out the oxplatinum tubing made of?
whats the diffrence between the sta mark 4 and the standard 250 s?
and what kind of giro do i need for the mark 4 frame? it has no giro tabs!!!!

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