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Which bikes are tougher - BMX or mountain bikes?

Old 05-07-05, 12:18 AM
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Which bikes are tougher - BMX or mountain bikes?

Which can stand up to more abuse.
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Old 05-07-05, 02:59 AM
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As a general rule, BMX.
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Old 05-07-05, 05:39 AM
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You can build a MTB to be much tougher than a BMX rig, but as "dooley" said..............
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Old 05-07-05, 03:25 PM
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I say bmx. They are made with a more solid construction without all of that shock business. Mountain bikes are made to take abuse while riding and bmx bikes are made to take abuse while falling off of them. A bmx bike takes more every day abuse just smashing into the ground, Mountain bikers dont fall down as often but ride on much more sever much less level terrain. So if you are talking about the bikes themselves, I think bmx bikes are made stronger but as far as the sports, I dont know. Serious mountain bikers do some crazy stuff down some crazy terrain.. but I guess I have to say bmx because thats what I ride.
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https://whnz.lostillusionsxxx.com/bf1.mpg
https://www.mbuk.com/images/Kettles%20Drop.mov

No idea. Both are strong builds.
Sorry, I have no phat bmx vids to link to.

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Old 05-07-05, 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by jeff williams
phat bmx vids
I LOLed.
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Old 05-07-05, 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by austin-rider
Which can stand up to more abuse.
i think that BMX bikes are stronger becuse the frames (except for race bikes and some other weird bikes..[like the 2-HIP Pork]) are all made from high tensile Steel or chromoly (4130)...and since almost all BMX parts are made from 4130 so then they would be stronger than aluminuim....ya ok....
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Old 05-07-05, 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Beerman
I LOLed.
Hook us up with some jump vids. I watch bmx racing, but don't 'net for it.
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Old 05-07-05, 07:14 PM
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https://static.zed.cbc.ca/users/d/dow..._Stream001.mov
https://www.eengoedidee.nl/videoz/bmx/playgroundline.wmv
https://www.dominatevideos.net/v377
https://www.sfbmx.com/sfbmx/thevids/visionvids.html
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Old 05-07-05, 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by KinetikBiker04
i think that BMX bikes are stronger becuse the frames (except for race bikes and some other weird bikes..[like the 2-HIP Pork]) are all made from high tensile Steel or chromoly (4130)...and since almost all BMX parts are made from 4130 so then they would be stronger than aluminuim....ya ok....
https://www.teamhardcore.net/vids/mov/joepipe.mov You're right about stronger parts.
I use some bmx parts on my mtb -no, I don't do ANYTHING like the vids.

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Old 05-07-05, 07:19 PM
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Kinetic is wrong about the parts, not right. "Almost all BMX parts are made from 4130"? Since when? Rims, hubs, pedals, seatpost clamps, stems, etc, are aluminum.
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Old 05-07-05, 09:40 PM
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The answer to your very general question is not so simple. Most BMX freestyle bikes are built stronger than MTBs built for cross country racing. Conversely, your average MTB is probably much stronger than any BMX race bike. There are guys jumping 60 foot gaps on mountain bikes. I don't think a rigid BMX would hold up to that. This thread was started by someone who wants to know if a BMX race bike would be suitable for mountain biking. It would help if he gave us a bit more information, such as what kind of terrain he plans on riding.
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Old 05-07-05, 10:28 PM
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That's true - bmx racing bikes are stronger than say - a road bike.

But, bmx freestyle bikes are stronger, on average, than a mountain bike. Most of that durability comes from the smaller frame and wheel size combined with things like more spokes, thicker walled metal, and just beefier construction.

That doesn't make mountain bikes weak, but mountain bikes definitely are built more for straight up and down forces. BMX freestyle bikes, especially better ones, are designed to take some very serious abuse from all directions, especially harsh bails that stress forks, wheels, and frames.
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Old 05-07-05, 10:50 PM
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Specifically, he wants to know if he can use a Haro Group 1 SX 24 for mountain biking. He's been told that it's a BMX race bike, and would likely not hold up to much MTB type abuse. Rather than accept the advice given, he's started another thread, without ever explaining what kind of riding he'll be doing.
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Old 05-08-05, 12:54 AM
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Since when can a 26" 36h dished wheel be built up stronger than a 20" 48h undished wheel. It's all a question of size, lb for lb smaller = stronger, that applies to frames too.
As far as the strength of race bmxs goes, what did extreme mtbers start using when they realised their cranks weren't up to the job, yup, profile racing cranks.

Part of the reason I gave up mtb's was the fragility and expense the bikes.
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I haven't seen any 20 inchers clearing 60 foot gaps. Your question is actually pointless, as this wasn't a question of wheel strength. Mountain bikes simply don't have issues with wheel strength any more. You can buy one as strong as you need, if you've got the money. Did you give up MTBs for BMX? If so, strength and expense have nothing to do with that either. They are 2 vastly different disciplines within the sport of cycling. I can't picture someone saying "Oh, this is just too expensive, I'll go try a completely different sport".
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Old 05-08-05, 03:33 AM
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How does 116' grab you? On a bike with no suspension.
As far as BMX and MTB being 2 completely different disciplines, I see MTBs down the skatepark all the time, I also see MTBs racing at BMX tracks. I don't gaive a **** what bike you ride where, if you can afford to keep busting wheels when you do piss poor table s at the trails/180's at the skatepark then fair play to you.

Is a 26" wheel as strong as a 20" wheel? No.

Why is it so hard to believe I gave up MTBs because of the expense of breaking forks and wheels? I know a few other people who've done the same thing. A BMX is a bike, not a discipline.





The original question was which bike can take more abuse? Answer - a BMX
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You'll have to provide some sort of link to back up your 116' claim. A mountain bike at a skate park is not being used as a mountain bike, is it? They do make MTBs specifically for skate parks and jumping, but they have a single chain ring up front, and are a lot closer to a 26" BMX than a true MTB. They're built for jumps, not trails. If you kept breaking forks and wheels, you either bought cheap gear, or were using the wrong tool for the job.

As far as the original question, he wanted to know if a certain BMX bike was suitable for MTB riding. He wasn't just asking about wheelsets. A cheap set of 20" wheels are no better than a good set of 26" wheels.

I think Austin-Rider should participate in the threads he starts. He still never stated exactly what he intended on using the bike for.
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Old 05-08-05, 05:04 AM
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116' is the world record, Colin Winkelman, google it.

Marzocchi DJ forks are hardly the wrong forks for the job.

As far as comparions go, you should really compare like for like. A really good 48h 20" vs a really good 26" 48h wheel.
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Old 05-08-05, 05:19 AM
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I'll google Colin. The failure rate for the DJ is extemely low. To the best of my knowledge, they are the only single crown fork to be rated for use on tandem MTBs. If you broke a DJ, I wouldn't think it was due to lack of strength in the fork.

A good 48 hole MTB wheel would be for a touring tandem. They can stand up to a load of 600lb or more.
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Old 05-08-05, 05:37 AM
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I don't know how strong the wheels you're talking about are, but I have Halo SAS 48h rims, undished build with DT Champion spokes on Bullseye tandem hubs on my commuter, and I know for a fact they're not as strong as my BMX wheels.
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wouldn't a bmx be stronger? Don't those derailler things break?
I don't even know why bikes use suspension anyway
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Originally Posted by queensrider86
wouldn't a bmx be stronger? Don't those derailler things break?
I don't even know why bikes use suspension anyway
You don't know much about bikes. Why is it the kids on the BMX forum always critique a bike by stating that they can break everything on it in an hour, yet still feel BMX bikes are the toughest bikes out there? You rarely read about broken stuff in the MTB forum, and almost never in the road bike or tandem forums.
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I can understand the comment about broken parts in the MTB forum... but the roadie forums? No offense to road bikers, but how exactly does one go about destroying a road bike by riding it in its intended manner from doing anything aside from improper maintenence? I can't imagine actually breaking one from racing/commuting it around on the streets.
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