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Old 12-22-05, 08:50 AM
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New bike or frame?

I broke the frame of my 4 year old Diamondback Joker (entry level, American Bottom braket)

I am considering a budget of +/- $300,

I am 5'11" 180 lbs
I want:
Street bike
21" Length, maybe 20.5
Full Chromo frame
Relatively light

My current candidates include:

https://www.danscomp.com/cgi-bin/haze...IL&item=211011 - ALLIANCE PSI FRAME $239
https://www.danscomp.com/cgi-bin/haze...IL&item=101076 - DK Six pack - $299
https://www.danscomp.com/cgi-bin/haze...IL&item=211186 - Poverty Frame $199 + $80 Cranks

what do you guys recommend? Thanks in advance
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why?
is it compatable with the db joker parts?
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Because the Psi is a damn good frame, that's why. It's welded by FBM, and all the ones that I've seen can and have handled some major abuse.
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i just saw a 3 amigos dropout break. that's what happens when you remove metal from dropouts to make a built in chain tensioner
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No, that's what happens when you let Fly makes frames. I've seen more Panteras break than any other freestyle frame on the market.
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Originally Posted by bxbmx
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because its a brilliant frame
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is it compatable with the db joker parts?
Alliance PSI:
Chainstay: 13.75- 14.25"
BB Type: Amer or Euro
BB Height: 11.5"
Headtube Angle: 74.5°
Seattube Angle: 71°
Seatpost Size: 25.4mm
Dropout Size: 14mm

check it against your bike. give me the EXACT year and i can help u more.

it will probably be fine though, not sure what the headtube type is, but ask Beer or Queens about that...
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No, that's what happens when you let Fly makes frames. I've seen more Panteras break than any other freestyle frame on the market.
i've seen the BB-chainstay junction break on an underrotated 360, i forget which frame it was, i think it was a diablo or some spanish thing.

those ruben pedals suck. i heard there brakes are good. ruben tires are good. i would definately never trust them with welding though
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Their brakes are superb. I'll give them that.
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Originally Posted by JMC
because its a brilliant frame

Alliance PSI:
Chainstay: 13.75- 14.25"
BB Type: Amer or Euro
BB Height: 11.5"
Headtube Angle: 74.5°
Seattube Angle: 71°
Seatpost Size: 25.4mm
Dropout Size: 14mm

check it against your bike. give me the EXACT year and i can help u more.

it will probably be fine though, not sure what the headtube type is, but ask Beer or Queens about that...
I got it Jan 2003, it might be the 02 model. I think it had the 4 pc bars instead of 2 pc. If you need pics i can take...
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get a DK six pack
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the other guy is right, get the six pack, assuming that your current parts are all stock and shoody
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It's cheaper and easier to just buy a new bike. Plus the 6 pack has quality stuff on it.
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I read, that the 6 pack is for dirt (and heavy), im looking for a street/flatland. Can you add front brakes to the 6 Pak?

My local bike shop has the haro F4 (33.36 lbs, 20.25 top tube) which i am interested in.

I think im getting the Haro Mirra 540. 20.5 tube and 33.4 - my local shop has it for $300 and its got good reviews

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Originally Posted by bxbmx
I read, that the 6 pack is for dirt (and heavy), im looking for a street/flatland. Can you add front brakes to the 6 Pak?

My local bike shop has the haro F4 (33.36 lbs, 20.25 top tube) which i am interested in.

I think im getting the Haro Mirra 540. 20.5 tube and 33.4 - my local shop has it for $300 and its got good reviews

you must be able to put front brakes on them cause you can get them in australia, and any bike sold in australia must have front brakes.
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front breaks on every bike? wow i never knew that...why? like is it a law?
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