mott464

Ive been trying for a while now but can only get it about half way around before I hit the ground. Here is a short video of me trying. Ignore the other short random crappy biking in the video. Any tips would help alot. Thanks
https://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu...oid=2031043799

FitRider 921

I doubt anyone could really give you assistance here because I doubt anyone here can do one. If I ever attempted a whopper, I'd probably kill myself.

EDIT: I just watched the movie. It looks like you aren't even hopping and are just trying to spin the bike. Hop as high as possible, and then try it.

mott464

It feels so weird to do a normal bunnyhop and try but i guess its the only way to do it, Ive tried tailwhips off of curbs and can come closer, but i still have a ways to go.

minichamp31

Is a whopper a tailwhip off the ground, because that's what it looks like.

mott464

yeah

FuzzyRyder

How long have you been riding?

MadMan2k

I would think hop barspins and tailwhips out of banks would be good to learn before those.

eightdip

Not gonna happen man. Not even close to landing one. Sorry to be so harsh but it's true

FitRider 921

Not to be mean as well, but I agree with Eightdip. It isn't anywhere near halfway. You are probably about 1/4 of the way through the process when your feet hit the ground.

wds178

DISCLAIMER: I can't do whoppers.
That out of the way, watching your video, it looks more like you're lifting your front end up & launching the back end out from under you. You need to level that out. Even if you somehow managed to get your feet back on the bike, I think you'd most likely land flat on your back.
Let me ask - how good are you at flat ground, footjam whips? Pretty much every tip I've seen on tailwhips, flatland or off a jump, always says to push the bars away from you, then pull them back in.
This brings the bike around without having to depend on a huge kick so much.
I'd say practice that motion on the ground w/ footjam ones first. Slight kick, push bars away, as the bike gets to its 180 point, pull bars back towards you. Get that down. Then bring it to a hop on a bank, etc.
Good luck.
-Bill

mott464

I can do footjam tailwhips and Whiplashes prety easily. I know im not anywhere close to landing them, thats why I came on here asking for help. There making me so dam mad. I have been trying them for about a year now and I dont think im any closer thank I was a year ago.

mott464

I get some more video of them later. I didnt realy bunnyhop good in there because that was the first time I have been aloud to ride in the past 4 months, and it just feels realy weird to try and bunnyhop high and do that. That thing on my leg is the reason why I am finally able to ride now.

KinetikBiker

Your video didn't want to load for me.

It's probly best if you learn tailwhips on a bank to flat, flyout or a box jump first. Most things are harder on flat ground. Example: I just learned turndowns on box jumps and trails, but i can't do them on flat ground or off curbs and stuff yet. Same with tables, i can get them fine on trails and boxes, but not any where near as good off curbs and out of bunnyhops.

callumrides

flyout of a quarter so you get more air.

sprintcarblue

Whoppers are pretty intense. My friend who can whip any bank, quarter, off ledges, off subs into banks etc can't even get them. Oddly enough, though he can get closer doing half cab whips than straight whoppers.

KinetikBiker

That's weird.

Tailwhips don't do much for me. I wouldn't mind learning them, but i'm not a big fan. Double whips and tripple whips look terrible. I like those long floater slow spun whips over big gaps or jumps.

sprintcarblue

I know what you mean. They're kind of like barspins, when you over do them they get boring. But given the right obstacle they look sweet.

FitRider 921

I wish I could barspin or tailwhip. I might try hop barspins soon, but I don't want to break my body into pieces so soon. Something tells me I'd go OTB.

FuzzyRyder

No, that dosen't happen. You will just end up pushing you bike away alot.

wethepeople

Exactly, every time I try them I end up leaning to far back and throwing the bike.

Also, I rode some trails today for the first time in a while, now my arms are sore.

KinetikBiker

Exactly.

People like Chris Doyle that fire them over the biggest gaps are ok. But all these people just doing whip after whip after whip after whip, it's just annoying and ruining a cool trick.

Barspins to turndowns are rad.

FitRider 921

I meant on the barspin.

FuzzyRyder

I know. You don't go OTB learing bunnyhop bars.

MadMan2k

Well, he might be figure out a way to do it, and break an arm this time.

eightdip

Hop bars are so hard. Especially with slams and a slammed junior seat. I find it hard to not grip the seat on flat barspins you see