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Old 11-17-11, 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by wintermute
My daughter isn't a normal kid. She wants to jump it. She wants the bike specifically for tricks. She has her banana seat "Brady Bunch" bike (her words) for cruising (the kid likes retro stuff as well). We're blessed with a really large driveway and she wants me to build her some ramps. As a father, I go into this endeavor with mixed blessings, but she's already rollerblading and skateboarding so this is just a logical progression.

I went to the LBS and they actually had some really good prices, including $350 (neg.) for last year's Verde Vex.
Hi there Wintermute!

I'll vote 4 the Vex deal! Just make certain that it's the OG Vex!

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You're already in a good spot. If you can get them to drop the cost any further, I'd call you an exceptional kinda guy!

....You're a great dad!

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Old 11-17-11, 08:27 PM
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Get that Vex! Mostly chromo at that price will still last her several years, so she can beat the crap out of like it's intended to be. And build ramps! the building process itself is extremely fun, and she'll have a blast using them. Especially since she could also use them with a board and blades.

And slim, I know you're helping, but most of those posts were TL;DR. Most people don't like reading that much information when just looking for a quick answer. Again, I know you're helping, and I'm sorry if thats strikes any nerves.
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Originally Posted by Street rider
Get that Vex! Mostly chromo at that price will still last her several years, so she can beat the crap out of like it's intended to be. And build ramps! the building process itself is extremely fun, and she'll have a blast using them. Especially since she could also use them with a board and blades.

And slim, I know you're helping, but most of those posts were TL;DR. Most people don't like reading that much information when just looking for a quick answer. Again, I know you're helping, and I'm sorry if thats strikes any nerves.
Please try to overlook my handicap. I'm mentally disabled!

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Street Rider,

Somewhere in your future, I see a traffic cop...

However, I will take your advice and post more concisely!

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Old 11-17-11, 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by SlimRider
Somewhere in your future, I see a traffic cop...
A traffic cop? I've already been pulled over twice this semester, neither time in a car. And the shorter post thing is just a product of this generation (I know, I'm part of it) that doesn't read incredibly long things on a screen. Unless its my kindle, I hate doing it too.
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Well, since she's after jumping the bike, get her the best you can afford. The local Craigs List might have a rarely used chromoly bmx that might even be better than some of the deals for a brand new one. I think a lot of those are people that bought higher end bmx, found out they wanted to do something else instead and the bike sat in a garage gathering dust.
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Slim, don't worry about the long, detailed posts. I like 'em. I'm German - I need to research things to death. Plus I'm a bike guy, just not a bmx guy (while everyone was riding Diamondbacks and Hutches when I was a kid, my parents stuck me with a Ross that weighed 4,000 lbs. that refused to leave Planet Earth). Unfortunately now my wife's thinking about getting her a netbook - I gotta work on that, maybe perform a pre-emptive counterstrike.
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Originally Posted by fuji86
Well, since she's after jumping the bike, get her the best you can afford. The local Craigs List might have a rarely used chromoly bmx that might even be better than some of the deals for a brand new one. I think a lot of those are people that bought higher end bmx, found out they wanted to do something else instead and the bike sat in a garage gathering dust.
And a lot of those bikes end up being Eastern. I would rather drink a pitcher of my own vomit...
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Originally Posted by wintermute
Slim, don't worry about the long, detailed posts. I like 'em. I'm German - I need to research things to death. Plus I'm a bike guy, just not a bmx guy (while everyone was riding Diamondbacks and Hutches when I was a kid, my parents stuck me with a Ross that weighed 4,000 lbs. that refused to leave Planet Earth). Unfortunately now my wife's thinking about getting her a netbook - I gotta work on that, maybe perform a pre-emptive counterstrike.
Hi there Wintermute!

I'm somewhat relieved that you found my posts pleasurable. However, being long-winded and crafting lengthy written responses is just a part of my personality. People seem to tolerate it more either in person or in a professional setting, than in any e-forum. Of course, I understand the gravity of this complexed social dilemma and have personally reconciled my inner spirit concerning it.

I am most certainly elated that your daughter will be provided a great BMX bike at a really decent price. I am positive that her undying love for you will only deepen after that gift. I never will forget my mother for the gift of a brand new Viking bicycle many years ago. Somehow that gift, sealed the deal. I just knew that whatever future transgression my mother could perpetrate, I would still love her.

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Must she experience both a netbook and a great BMX bike, simutaneously! I mean there's Xmas and there are birthdays too...

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Originally Posted by SlimRider
Must she experience both a netbook and a great BMX bike, simutaneously! I mean there's Xmas and there are birthdays too...
Alas, Santa Claus doesn't have the funds for that endeavor. The BMX may have to wait (I have to listen to the boss) until her b-day in November. I have a funny feeling she'll find a way to get her stovepipe Ross banana bike airborne before then.
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If you're planning on building ramps I got some site for you. Building a quarter pipe right now.
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If you're planning on building ramps I got some site for you. Building a quarter pipe right now.
Holy hell, haven't seen you around in ages fuzz
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Been pretty busy but recently started riding again. Me and my roommate are building some stuff in the backyard. I'll put up pictures when I finish.
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Awesome! I haven't been riding my bike much. Bringing it up to school when I go back on Monday, and leaving the fixie here for now. Gettin too cold for those skinny tires now.
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If a complete bike is still on the table, I'd go with a DK complete.

I started with a DK 4 years ago, and still have the frame is good condition today.
I also still have the front wheel and forks on my current bike.
Even my frame now is a DK.
Point is, I do believe they make good quality stuff.

Unlike eastern. Avoid Eastern like the plague.
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Soulite32 says:

If a complete bike is still on the table, I'd go with a DK complete.
I'm not too sure about DK anymore after the change in ownership and the lucrative sellout to Walmart...

Point is, I do believe they make good quality stuff.
I would hope so, they've always been highly respected in my neck of the woods.

Unlike eastern. Avoid Eastern like the plague.
You must be all mixed up or something!...Eastern is quite simply, one of the very best!

Are you basing your this conclusion upon personal experience or just from hearsay from the competition?

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Originally Posted by SlimRider
You must be all mixed up or something!...Eastern is quite simply, one of the very best!
I swear to god this had better be sarcasm. Specs may read quality, but their products themselves are anything but. Don't just avoid eastern like the plague, it is a plague.
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Originally Posted by Street rider
I swear to god this had better be sarcasm. Specs may read quality, but their products themselves are anything but. Don't just avoid eastern like the plague, it is a plague.
Hey there Slim Rider,

I've have never known anyone to complain about Eastern before. In fact, I've heard nothing but good things about Eastern. They're listed on several websites as being one of the top ten BMX companies in the world.

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Check these websites out:

www.bmxtricksnow.com/Top_10_BMX_Companies.html

www.livestrong.com/article/211879-top-10-bmx-bikes/

www.mademan.com/mm/5-best-bmx-bikes-frames.html

www.mademan.com/mm/5-best-bmx-bike-companies.html

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Because they pump out products to swamp the markets. My friends and I have only had failures with their stuff. Never going that route, no matter how cheap some of that **** is.
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Originally Posted by SlimRider
No. However, I must caution you at this time. There have been a few consumer review complaints about chain slippage and other component malfunctions on this particular model of bicycle. As long as you immediately take this bicycle to a reputable bicycle shop with a qualified bike mechanic, you should be just fine. It's the frame that's worth the small sacrifice! It's difficult to find a full 100% chromoly BMX frame for under $450.

Walmart traditionally has unqualified people installing bicycle components on bicycle frames. However, your bike's components may have been installed correctly.

If the bike mechanic tells you that too many things are wrong with the bike, you should just return the bike immediately, and go with the original plan about contacting Haro, Diamondback, or Mongoose.

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My mother has her perscriptions filled at the local wally world, and while waiting, I wandered over to the bicycle display. One of the einsteins there had assembled a womens step thru frame with the front fork 180 degrees out(backwards) and installed the fender and handlebar as if that's the way it supposed to be. I wished my phone had a camera.

To OP, I'd go with HARO, but the Diamondback and Mongoose are good too. I have a Mongoose full size MTB that I really like.
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I don't know about DK. Some of their products are whatever and the completes are just okay. When I was beginning I broke a a pair of handle bars and I wasn't even rough on the bike and I don't weigh 500lbs or anything like that.
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Originally Posted by Street rider
They used to be reputable. I don't know what happened to them, but i bet that was sort of like Haro too. They were a great company, making great products, and then all of a sudden they were off the radar. Hell, Dans doesn't even stock DK stuff anymore.
The reason you do not see DK at Dan's doesn't have anything to do with quality. They do not permit their products to be sold online anymore. Only at authorized dealers. It is supposed to help out bike shops. I personaly think it is a mistake, if kids don't see it online, they don't know it exists. Since they started this policy, our sales of DK have dropped way off. I know they got out of the distribution business and have downsized, so there may be more to the story.
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But they sell their stuff at wallyworld. That really throws them off of a lot of peoples 'to-buy' lists.
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Originally Posted by SlimRider
Walmart also has the DK Cleveland.

The DK Cleveland has a full chromoly steel frame. It will last for years. All you have to do is change the components as they wear out and you can keep it in the family for decades. Your daughter can keep it for your grandkids. All you have to do is keep it dry and indoors for storage. Bring it into the house every evening. Don't let it ever see the morning dew...

If you should purchase the DK Cleveland from Walmart, make certain that you immediately take it to the nearest bicycle shop, so that they can check all of the component installations. It will be well worth the extra $20 or so!

This is right as much as I hate what DK is doing.
The DK Cleveland ~ $229

The bike shop should check the wheels and make sure that they're true. They should check to make sure that the wheels and crank are properly torqued. The pedals should be on the correct side of the bike and tightened to specs. The brakes should be installed properly. The handlebars should be good and tight. Tire pressure should be checked. The chain should be lubricated, tight, and aligned properly. The seat should be adjusted according to her comfort level and then sufficiently tightened. Everything that needs to be lubricated should be done at this time. Tell them to check the bottom bracket. It should be torqued and aligned properly.

* If you have a bike co-op in your area, you can do all of this yourself!

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This is probably the best reply as much as I hate what DK is doing. Verde vex would be better though.
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Originally Posted by fuzzbox
I don't know about DK. Some of their products are whatever and the completes are just okay. When I was beginning I broke a a pair of handle bars and I wasn't even rough on the bike and I don't weigh 500lbs or anything like that.
I remember that, broke at the weld and cross bar or something.

I had a General Lee that I beat and abused for quite some time before I broke the chainstay and bottom bracket. I TIG'd it and flogged on it for another month or so before getting a new frame. But that was when DK was still quality.
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just so you all know, i got a Rhino bmx bike from walmart in 2001, i still have it and the only thing i replaced is the tires and breakpads/cables(i ride in the rain sometimes and the cables rusted and broke eventually.) and im a big guy, in 01 i was 250lbs and 6'2'' . it was more than worth the 60 bucks i payed for the thing on sale! xD
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