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Old 06-09-20, 03:57 PM
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Good series that never go into syndication or DVD.

One I am thinking of is "Frank's Place," starring Tim Reid... it only went for one season, but was quite brilliant. But due to music rights issues, it will never again see the the light of day.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank%27s_Place

"Northern Exposure" is another one... although it eventually "jumped the shark" in later seasons when Joel was replaced. But again, music rights issues... there was a limited season CD released, but not with the original mood setting music.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Exposure

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rockford files ?
Rockford Files was in syndication for a long long time.

How about the Showtime series, The Chris Isaak Show?
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Rockford Files was in syndication for a long long time.

How about the Showtime series, The Chris Isaak Show?
SEAHUNT with lloyd bridges
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SEAHUNT with lloyd bridges
The series is available on Youtube https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...SiTc5on3bAWrP5
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*Dead Like Me*, which may have gone to DVD, so sorry about that, but Mandy Patinkin had a great role.
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Seahunt has been on late night here for years.

Northern Exposure goes through syndication every few years, but not endlessly like some series.

Dead Like Me ran late night last year, every episode almost back to back for a month or so, but not again. It's available online.

I'd kinda like to watch Pushing Daisies again. It was charming, silly and harmless. I'm a sucker for Barry Sonnenfeld's style.

Might be interesting to watch Heroes again, at least the first season. It never really rebounded from the writer's strike.

Ditto, Flying Blind, the first thing I remember Tea Leoni in. But only the pilot or first episode. It was really weird in a good way. But the series faded quickly and couldn't maintain that initial quirkiness.

Fringe is never rerun anywhere that I can find, but I have the whole series on DVD. I should rewatch it and see if it's really as good as I thought it was the first time. Or maybe I just had a serious crush on Anna Torv, mostly her Fauxlivia alt-universe character.

And LEXX. Wackiest offbeat sci-fi series ever. Farscape was pretty good too. But it's hard to beat LEXX for that "WTF did I just watch?" feeling.
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I used to like a TV show called Ed. The first season or two at least were really good. Unfortunately, I've heard that there were some music licensing issues (not uncommon for shows made in the late 90's) where they used popular music and licensed it only for TV broadcast and not DVDs (which were only done for the most popular of shows) or streaming (which didn't exist) and now it's too expensive/complicated to be worth it to go back and try to get streaming licensing for all those songs (including some from bands that no longer exist or don't have contactable representation to get the rights).
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Originally Posted by canklecat View Post
Seahunt has been on late night here for years.

Northern Exposure goes through syndication every few years, but not endlessly like some series.

Dead Like Me ran late night last year, every episode almost back to back for a month or so, but not again. It's available online.

I'd kinda like to watch Pushing Daisies again. It was charming, silly and harmless. I'm a sucker for Barry Sonnenfeld's style.

Might be interesting to watch Heroes again, at least the first season. It never really rebounded from the writer's strike.

Ditto, Flying Blind, the first thing I remember Tea Leoni in. But only the pilot or first episode. It was really weird in a good way. But the series faded quickly and couldn't maintain that initial quirkiness.

Fringe is never rerun anywhere that I can find, but I have the whole series on DVD. I should rewatch it and see if it's really as good as I thought it was the first time. Or maybe I just had a serious crush on Anna Torv, mostly her Fauxlivia alt-universe character.

And LEXX. Wackiest offbeat sci-fi series ever. Farscape was pretty good too. But it's hard to beat LEXX for that "WTF did I just watch?" feeling.
...i guess i just never caught up to these "missing"series BUT i modeled my radio show after the NORTHERN EXPOSURE radio station guy
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...i guess i just never caught up to these "missing"series BUT i modeled my radio show after the NORTHERN EXPOSURE radio station guy
Chris in the Morning, eh? Yeah the show really did have it's moments.
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I used to like a TV show called Ed. The first season or two at least were really good. Unfortunately, I've heard that there were some music licensing issues (not uncommon for shows made in the late 90's) where they used popular music and licensed it only for TV broadcast and not DVDs (which were only done for the most popular of shows) or streaming (which didn't exist) and now it's too expensive/complicated to be worth it to go back and try to get streaming licensing for all those songs (including some from bands that no longer exist or don't have contactable representation to get the rights).
Yeah, that happened with some X-Files episodes too. "D.P.O.", the "lightning boy" episode with a young Giovanni Ribisi, featured the Filter song "Hey Man, Nice Shot," but that song was eliminated or substituted in some syndicated reruns, which gutted the impact of those scenes.
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"Every TV fan has one show or another that was released on DVD in the early days of TV on DVD sets, only to have its music cues completely changed or destroyed. The wonderful, quirky drama Northern Exposure, for instance, had one of the great TV soundtracks of all time — but you wouldn't know it to watch the DVDs, which replace much of the music with annoying but cheaper tunes.Foos says that one show Shout has looked at releasing that has lots and lots of music (including a theme song by the Foo Fighters) is the four-season small-town dramedy Ed, which gave actors Tom Cavanagh and Julie Bowen their starts, and is currently languishing in a kind of TV purgatory, where nobody ever gets to see it. He also mentioned that Malcolm in the Middle is unlikely to be released on DVD in its entirety because of music rights issues."

The weird legal reason many of your favorite shows aren’t on DVD-- Vox

The short-lived gem from 2003, Keen Eddie, would be my example. Only ran one shortened season, so would never be eligible for syndication anyway. Apparently couldn't clear any of the originally aired music, so the DVD release had what sounded like royalty-free garbage in it's place.
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Originally Posted by DrIsotope View Post
"Every TV fan has one show or another that was released on DVD in the early days of TV on DVD sets, only to have its music cues completely changed or destroyed. The wonderful, quirky drama Northern Exposure, for instance, had one of the great TV soundtracks of all time ó but you wouldn't know it to watch the DVDs, which replace much of the music with annoying but cheaper tunes.Foos says that one show Shout has looked at releasing that has lots and lots of music (including a theme song by the Foo Fighters) is the four-season small-town dramedy Ed, which gave actors Tom Cavanagh and Julie Bowen their starts, and is currently languishing in a kind of TV purgatory, where nobody ever gets to see it. He also mentioned that Malcolm in the Middle is unlikely to be released on DVD in its entirety because of music rights issues."

The weird legal reason many of your favorite shows arenít on DVD-- Vox

The short-lived gem from 2003, Keen Eddie, would be my example. Only ran one shortened season, so would never be eligible for syndication anyway. Apparently couldn't clear any of the originally aired music, so the DVD release had what sounded like royalty-free garbage in it's place.
After a bike ride Wednesday night I was talking with a friend who's struggling to keep his craft brewery going through the pandemic and incompetence of local and state government. I had some experience in journalism and as a safety inspector, so we were chatting about issues, challenges and possible solutions.

One of the problems he mentioned was getting hit with licensing fee demands for music after well-meaning patrons uploaded videos to social media. Apparently ASCAP and others trawl the internet for exactly that sort of thing to find businesses where music is played. You'd think those licensing fees for karaoke, for example, were already covered, but nope. And if a licensing agency hears so much as a bit of licensed music in the background played by a patron sitting on the patio -- not even by the business's PA system -- they'll gig the business for fees.

I suppose I shouldn't be surprised. A few years ago I uploaded a video of a group bike ride to YouTube. As some folks do, one cyclist had a bottle cage loudspeaker on during the ride. Cake's "Short Skirt/Long Jacket" was audible through the ambient traffic and street noise on the video clip I uploaded. YouTube flagged it for copyright violation. At the time the only option was to run the video silent, pay the licensing fee, or delete it. I just set it to private, with the sound omitted. Later YouTube automated some licensing issues by giving uploaders the option of allowing YouTube to monetize videos on behalf of the artists' agencies. So usually there are fewer copyright violation notices, although the policy is erratic.

Rick Beato, a music producer who uploads brilliantly informative analyses of rock and pop music with titles like "What Makes This Song So Great," has used short snips of many songs for instructive/critique purposes, but still occasionally has to fight YouTube to keep his videos up, even those he doesn't monetize.

Like some movie analysis/critique channels on YouTube, the uploaders have to sell merchandise or long form versions of critiques/analyses on their own websites or via downloads, DVD, etc,. in order to make any money from their work. It often turns out to be a time consuming labor of love.

Too bad because I'm not persuaded that these licensing squabbles are in the best interests of the original artists. Many musicians who were stars when I was younger are virtual unknowns now. I was shocked to see the number of comments on Robin Trower videos from people who said they'd never heard of Trower before and think he's criminally underrated. Well, he's never been underrated by those of us who grew up hearing him with Procol Harum and his string of 1970s solo stoner rock guitar virtuoso albums. For forgotten veteran artists and many new indie artists, licensing that's too restrictive may prevent their work from being better known.

It's a tricky balance, sure, but gigging a small business for music heard in the background played by a nearby car stereo or customer's phone doesn't serve any legitimate purpose.

It's gotten to the point where my friend is asking employees and customers to, please, stop photographing and videoing every moment and uploading it to social media. Particularly during the pandemic when a photo of two employees who appear to be closer than 6 feet and not wearing masks can be taken out of context and serve as grist for the name and shame mob.

I felt kinda bad in retrospect because a couple of years ago a local young woman who participated in karaoke night had an incredible voice, way above the usual karaoke night stuff. She should have been fronting a good R&B band. Her voice was a cross between Eartha Kitt and Amy Winehouse and she could belt out R&B with the best of 'em. So whenever I heard her on karaoke night I'd upload those videos to Facebook, not realizing my friend might have to waste time on a licensing claim trying to prove that, yes, they had already paid the fees to use that music for karaoke night.
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^^^^ music is monitored for ASCAP etc by law firms that send out notice letters to places like coffee shops, craft breweries etc and the law firms take a cut of the collections. all of this is part of the music/film industry analog regulations MOST OF WHICH MAKE NO SENSE WHEN APPLIED TO THE INTERNET ....................... to the thread 77 SUNSET STRIP with ed byrnes or BEN CASEY or DR KILDARE
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"Every TV fan has one show or another that was released on DVD in the early days of TV on DVD sets, only to have its music cues completely changed or destroyed. The wonderful, quirky drama Northern Exposure, for instance, had one of the great TV soundtracks of all time ó but you wouldn't know it to watch the DVDs, which replace much of the music with annoying but cheaper tunes.Foos says that one show Shout has looked at releasing that has lots and lots of music (including a theme song by the Foo Fighters) is the four-season small-town dramedy Ed, which gave actors Tom Cavanagh and Julie Bowen their starts, and is currently languishing in a kind of TV purgatory, where nobody ever gets to see it. He also mentioned that Malcolm in the Middle is unlikely to be released on DVD in its entirety because of music rights issues."

The weird legal reason many of your favorite shows arenít on DVD-- Vox

The short-lived gem from 2003, Keen Eddie, would be my example. Only ran one shortened season, so would never be eligible for syndication anyway. Apparently couldn't clear any of the originally aired music, so the DVD release had what sounded like royalty-free garbage in it's place.
I keep meaning to watch Keen Eddie, but it never quite reaches the top of my Netflix queue because I'm afraid it will end on a never-to-be-resolved cliffhanger the way a lot of critically acclaimed but doomed one season shows do. Should I watch it anyway?

I loved Ed, but I think the time it had a chance for release has passed as its most ardent fans are forgetting it after 15+ years.
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I would say watch Keen Eddie regardless-- it's just a fun show. It sits on my list of shows gone before their time, alongside the inexplicably Fox'd-before-it's-time Lie to Me with Tim Roth, and my most cherished victim of the writer's strike, the Damian Lewis vehicle Life-- which I've watched 3 or 4 times.

It kills me to see shows that should be allowed to arrive at their finales cut off after 20 or 30 episodes, while shows like Bones (which should have ended at maybe season 6) put out 250 episodes.
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It was in syndication when I was growing up in the 70's - 80's. It's on the "H&I" TV channel now.
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I don't think I've seen the 80's show Friday the 13th the Series in syndication. It was on for three seasons. I think someone had posted them on YouTube a while back.
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I would say watch Keen Eddie regardless-- it's just a fun show. It sits on my list of shows gone before their time, alongside the inexplicably Fox'd-before-it's-time Lie to Me with Tim Roth, and my most cherished victim of the writer's strike, the Damian Lewis vehicle Life-- which I've watched 3 or 4 times.

It kills me to see shows that should be allowed to arrive at their finales cut off after 20 or 30 episodes, while shows like Bones (which should have ended at maybe season 6) put out 250 episodes.
I liked Life, but no such list is complete without Firefly topping it.
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Oh, Firefly will forever top the list of "shows inexplicably Fox'd," but Life would almost certainly have gone to its conclusion if not for the 07-08 writer's strike. Fox will cancel anything, at any time, for any reason... except The Simpsons. They cancelled Brooklyn 99 for no obvious reason, and it has been quite successful on NBC since.
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