Proper Appraisal? Modded Shogun 300
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Proper Appraisal? Modded Shogun 300
So about a year ago I bough an old '70s Shogun 300 with touring mods complete for $100.
The pic below is what it looked like when I picked it up. Sorry the image is upside down and small-- not sure how to fix this yet.
Then I took off all of the touring stuff (rear rack, cages, bottle holder, big seat) and added a new seat as well as cleaned and tuned it.
Then I bought some blue tires to bring out the blue logo. No pic for that (sorry).
About two weeks after that the cassette and bearings both failed and I almost died, so I did a big overhaul and bought Retrospec deep- V rims with a flip- flop hub, Kendall Kwest tires, new drop bars and white Cinelli tape, a Origin8 Pro Uno saddle, a new chain, and an Origin8 stem.
Frame/ original parts: $100
Retrospec rims and Kwest tires: $120
Origin8 seat: $20
Origin8 Quill: $15
Bars: $40
Tape: $12
Chain: $10
Total: $317
So what would you give for it? Keep in mind, frame is in very good condition, along with the brakes, crankset, pedals, etc. (everything that isn't new)
The pic below is what it looked like when I picked it up. Sorry the image is upside down and small-- not sure how to fix this yet.
Then I took off all of the touring stuff (rear rack, cages, bottle holder, big seat) and added a new seat as well as cleaned and tuned it.
Then I bought some blue tires to bring out the blue logo. No pic for that (sorry).
About two weeks after that the cassette and bearings both failed and I almost died, so I did a big overhaul and bought Retrospec deep- V rims with a flip- flop hub, Kendall Kwest tires, new drop bars and white Cinelli tape, a Origin8 Pro Uno saddle, a new chain, and an Origin8 stem.
Frame/ original parts: $100
Retrospec rims and Kwest tires: $120
Origin8 seat: $20
Origin8 Quill: $15
Bars: $40
Tape: $12
Chain: $10
Total: $317
So what would you give for it? Keep in mind, frame is in very good condition, along with the brakes, crankset, pedals, etc. (everything that isn't new)
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I think you would only get about half of what you have spent on the bike $150 or so. In the current market $200 or is about the most you can get for a basic SS conversion prices have come way done from the highs a few years ago. The double road chainring's up front make the conversion look sloppy half done and will turn a lot of buyers off, you should really consider putting a nice SS chainring on the front to make the conversion look complete.
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...I see phenomenon this a lot on the local CL. I know you "improved" this bike according to your own personal vision, but to get what you have invested in it on resale is unlikely. YOur best bet is to try to find someone who shares your vision........my own opinion is that you made the whole thing less functional, so I'm not your target market.
...I see phenomenon this a lot on the local CL. I know you "improved" this bike according to your own personal vision, but to get what you have invested in it on resale is unlikely. YOur best bet is to try to find someone who shares your vision........my own opinion is that you made the whole thing less functional, so I'm not your target market.
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I don't about the pricing but I'm pretty sure that is an early 1980s model and not from the 1970s. Typically, we can date Shogun from the serial numbers.
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Harsh to learn, but any custom build is usually worth less than the sum of its parts. That's why I cringe when I see the word "upgrades" on a CL ad.
Now there's a bunch of cheap singlespeeds and fixed gears you can buy online. All pre murdered-out or customizeable so you can mix and match colors for the "clown car" look.
Now there's a bunch of cheap singlespeeds and fixed gears you can buy online. All pre murdered-out or customizeable so you can mix and match colors for the "clown car" look.
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If I wanted a single speed, I guess maybe $170, assuming its well built?
If you still have the components that came on the bike, slap them back on and sell the bike. Keep the single speed stuff for a new single speed build and you will have almost $0 to spend on building a new bike up.
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I was considering fixing the rear hub on the original wheelset, putting those on that frame, and putting the new wheelset and bars on a new frame, but idk. If I were to buy a new frame, I would go carbon, and buy all carbon everything, just because.
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I'm going to buy a new SS crankset in a couple days... I agree that it makes it look sloppy.
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At this point I've basically replaced everything on the bike... I'm not planning on selling it soon, I know I can't make any type of profit even if I part it out. And, it's currently my only road- ish setup, so if I got rid of it before I made another I'd be up a creek without a paddle.
One last thing-- I didn't go single because I thought it made it look cooler or something, I did it because I almost never change gears. On my trip to/ from crew, I go up 3 long/tall 10- 11% grade hills-- going to crew, it's mostly downhill, but going home from crew, it's almost entirely uphill. Since I do crew and love working out (leg press record at my school), I kind of just power up them in whatever gear I am in-- usually 8 or 9. I can see the advantage of gears if you're biking in a large- ish tight group (cadence), but I don't. I just power through everything. Knowing that you will have to really push yourself to get up every hill is part of the fun of riding single- speed.
One last thing-- I didn't go single because I thought it made it look cooler or something, I did it because I almost never change gears. On my trip to/ from crew, I go up 3 long/tall 10- 11% grade hills-- going to crew, it's mostly downhill, but going home from crew, it's almost entirely uphill. Since I do crew and love working out (leg press record at my school), I kind of just power up them in whatever gear I am in-- usually 8 or 9. I can see the advantage of gears if you're biking in a large- ish tight group (cadence), but I don't. I just power through everything. Knowing that you will have to really push yourself to get up every hill is part of the fun of riding single- speed.
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But I do get your point... cycling certainly isn't helping my ligaments, and I'm sure some of that strain would be reduced by using gears. But I've already irreversibly messed my knees up to the point that cycling single- speed doesn't really hurt them (in a relative sense). I suppose single- speeds are fine for short (under 20, maybe 30- mile) rides, but anything over 30 and you should definitely be doing it with gears, especially if there are any hills or long inclines.
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