dmw

Hey guys I'm trying to figure what my Atala Grand Prix II "Hand made in Italy" is worth? I'm about to put it on CL want some extra cash for another rebuild.

Your thoughts would be appreciated

dmw

Sorry don't know why they flipped

indyfabz

Might have better luck in the C&V forum.

techsensei

There is nothing particularly special about that bike (in my opinion), although the chromed lugs is a nice touch. In my area, it might fetch a couple hundred bucks. Maybe a bit more to those people who think that having an old Italian bicycle would be cool. The bike doesn't have the original rear derailleur; it has been replaced with a Japanese Sun Tour unit.

philbob57

I think $200 is too high. This is a hi-tensile steel frame with a terrible front derailleur. The Suntour replaced a terrible RD, even though it was made by Campagnolo. This is the equivalent of the 2nd from the bottom of Raleigh, Peugeot, Bottechia, Gitane, Motobecane, etc. bike boom bikes - the bottom had bolt-on hubs, 2nd from bottom had QR hubs. Steel rims, very hard to stop when moist. The frame is in beautiful shape, but it's still hi-ten steel, not Reynolds/Columbus/Ishiwata/Tange

cb400bill

Thread moved from General Cycling to C&V Appraisals.

lostarchitect 

These have alloy rims, not steel, and have fairly nice Campagnolo hubs that are probably worth as much as the rest of the bike.

But yeah, it's a high-ten bike with chrome lugs. I had one a while back.

You could get $200 for a clean one in NYC just because it looks fancier than it is.

T-Mar

During the mid-1970s, the Grand Prix II was actually considered a lower mid-range model. While the tubing was hi-tensile, it was Tullio, lightweight, seamless, hi-tensile steel that was closer to plain gauge Reynolds 531 The wheels were another highlight, featuring Campagnolo Nuovo Tipo large flange hubs with quick release that were laced to Fiamme aluminum clincher rims. However, the real star of the show is missing. The crankset was a cotterless, steel, Campagnolo Sport which bring good money. All this added up to a respectable 26 lbs, something you didn't get with a Peugeot UO8, Raleigh Grand Prix, Bottechia Special, Motobecane Mirage or those other 2nd from the bottom of the line, lightweight models. The Grand Prix II was more in line with a Motobecane Grand Touring or a Raleigh Super Course.

lostarchitect 

I think this is one of the early 70's models. All of what you said holds true, except they did come with a steel cottered crankset. I've actually never seen one with an alloy crank. Seems like most of the ones around here (NYC) where they were imported are 73-74 models.

T-Mar

I never said that that it came with an aluminum cotterless crank. The earlier Grand Prix was spec'd with a steel, cottered crankset but this was replaced with the the OP's Grand Prix II in 1975 and these were originally spec'd with the Campagnolo Sport, steel, cotterless crankset.

lostarchitect 

Interesting. I have seen dozens of these and never seen one with that crank, so I guess they were all pilfered long ago.

T-Mar

The boom pretty much evaporated the year that the GP II came out and the Japanese were making big inroads nto the remaining lower mid-range market. Consequently surviving GP far outnumber surviving GP. Of the surviving GP II, I imagine that many have been stripped of the Campagnolo Sport crankset, as it is very prized.

I am attaching a link to a shop selling (at a ridiculous price) a GP II with the Campagnolo Sport crankset. Also, a picture of another GP II with this crankset. It not great resolution but you can still make out that it's the Campagnolo Sport, as opposed to a cottered crank. Finally, two excepts from Bicycling's road test of the GP II. One shows the specs, listing the Campagnolo Sport crankset and the other a picture of the Campagnolo Sport crankset on the test bicycle.

Budget Bicycle Center - Vintage Atala Grand Prix 2 62 cm Road Bike Bicycle Campagnolo Valentino 3TTT

italianbiker

75-125.00

randyjawa 

Let me see - an early seventies Italian road bicycle with a Campy transmission, chrome fork socks, stays socks and head tube lugs, and the bicycle appears to be in easy enough to refurbish/restore condition. My guess on value, if you have good marketing skills, live in a strong vintage bicycle market and can include a bit of patience, would be between $200 and $350 US.

I have sold lots of bicycles, very similar to the one presented by the OP, and they have all fetched in excess of $200 per unit. I should add that some exceeded the $200 mark by a considerable amount.

lostarchitect 

I dunno, Randy. I think it'd be a miracle to get $350 for one of these in NYC and that's one of the hottest markets out there. $200 I do think you can get.

stan1140

Just joined the forum. Have a Atala Grand Prix that I bought from Stuyvesant bikes in Manhattan way back in the early 70's. I upgraded to the Campy Triomphe stuff and got rid of that old cheap Campy rd and fd plus the crank, etc. Have a spare set of wheels from another ATALA. Was wondering as to the worth of it now, after all of these years. Looking to getting it repainted and rechromed.

Flog00

Atala Italian road bike

philbob57

This one has a cottered crank. Perhaps it's a GP, not a GP II.

Homebrew01

$50 - $75
Nothing interesting or remarkable about it. Typical entry level 1970s bike. A step up from the department store clunkers.