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1974 Raleigh International; rough condition

Old 03-30-15, 06:46 PM
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1974 Raleigh International; rough condition

Hi. I picked this Raleigh up for well....very cheap. It has Campy Nuovo Record: cranks, headset, seat-post, derailleurs. Brakes are Weinmann. Wheels are also Weinman, I believe. The lugs are beautiful, chromed. The chrome on the forks is damaged. The paint job is destroyed. The frame is still solid.
So, I was so excited to buy it, I missed the fact that its too small for me. So, what to do with this beauty. Sell by the piece? Sell is as-is whole? What are your thoughts?
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Old 03-30-15, 06:53 PM
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Depends on what you want...(1) maximize your profits? (2) find someone who wants to restore it (and, boy, that is a job...from the few pictures)? (3) just "flip" it easy? (please don't do that)

If you want to (1)...then part it out...take it apart, clean the bits, polish them...and eBay away...

If you want to (2)...then clean it up a bit...and offer for what it is...a restoration project...if you got it cheap enough, then you might make a bit on it

If you want to (3)...well...I t'ain't even going there...just don't...

So...it really is up to what you want...

Me? on this one...probably a part out...then sell the frame as the restore project...
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Old 03-30-15, 07:01 PM
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Old 03-30-15, 07:05 PM
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Thanks for response. And a value on the frame alone?
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Old 03-30-15, 08:07 PM
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Very poor pictures, but it looks like its gonna need a lot of work. The first pic in your second post makes it seem like there are serious paint and rust issues on the down tube, seat tube and stays.

I hate breaking up original stuff, but a raleigh international isnt very special to me. so if i were in your position where the bike didn't fit, Id strip the bike. Id clean up all the campy and put it on a frame that fit me. Then I'd resell the frameset on ebay. If you got everything for cheap you probably end up with a free campy gruppo and a few bucks extra
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Old 03-31-15, 12:00 AM
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I have one of the same color, I really like it. A really nice International frame is about $400-$450. One with bad paint is about $150 to $200. You could get more if you add in the headsets, but it is probably more profitable to sell it separately. Shine those parts up and you will make some nice coin. What I would do is... figure out what parts you want to keep and sell the frame and some pats until you make back what you paid, I really like the Campy pedals and the high flange hubs.
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My advice. Remove all the components. Wash the frame and give it an oxalic acid bath to remove all the rust. Put anything that is steel from the components as well in the bath. Once all the rust is gone, make your decision. Part out is the most profitable but also the most work. Your ebay skills need to be good as well.
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Frame in its current state is worth very little. The value is in all the parts. Clean them up and look at completed auctions on eBay, depending how good a job you do on cleaning the parts, you will be delighted with the outcome.

Dealing with the rusty frame is more work, PITA. Since it doesn't fit, I would post it here for $100 plus shipping. Let someone with the time/tools/aptitude/space to do the rust abatement.

+10 Nothing on eBay is automatic. Marketing skills are a MUST. You will routinely see a spread on one item of say $25 to $75. How does one seller get TRIPLE another seller. 5% luck, 95% marketing skills (including polishing and prep, reputation as a seller, etc.) I've been selling on eBay for 15 years, its a lot of work! Most underestimate the effort required to get FMV.
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Old 03-31-15, 07:11 AM
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Don't assume the chrome is shot. I've seen what looked hopeless come back enough to be presentable. But don't attempt to clean or polish unless you know what you are doing.
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What size a bike do you need? These bikes have long top tubes in the smaller frame sizes, the bike has a short stem and the bars are narrow.
I think you could get this bike to fit if you were even 5' 9", maybe a bit more if your legs were not porportionally long.
Looks like someone swapped the wheels at some point. Lose the pump clip. As others have noted, clean it up, if anything to help you decide on what to do. If it has the original Campagnolo shift cables, remove those with care, if not too far gone they have value by themselves, Campagnolo cables have a c stamped in a diamond on the head of the lever end.

Cleaned up I think this bike could make a swell "old soldier" ride. While you are deciding and if you really want a bigger frame and or one with pretty paint, look for a frame and use these parts.
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Old 03-31-15, 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by TugaDude View Post
Don't assume the chrome is shot. I've seen what looked hopeless come back enough to be presentable. But don't attempt to clean or polish unless you know what you are doing.
The fork crown looks the most problematic, but worth attending to, yes.
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Old 03-31-15, 07:36 AM
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It's a shame it's too small because it would be a great bike to clean up real good without spending much more money, then ride it like you stole it. Would also be a good bike to get your teenager into riding C&V or urban. I hate to separate things that were meant to be together.
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Old 04-03-15, 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by CroMo Mike View Post
It's a shame it's too small because it would be a great bike to clean up real good without spending much more money, then ride it like you stole it. Would also be a good bike to get your teenager into riding C&V or urban. I hate to separate things that were meant to be together.
I am sad its too darn small. No way around it. I would put money and time into the bike if I could ride it after. I think I will sell the frame and hold the components for my next find!
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That was one very short pump someone had mounted in there.
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