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Old 05-12-15, 08:27 PM
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Guys. Help. Am I being gipped?

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Carlton Japanese Vintage Road Bike | road | City of Toronto | Kijiji

I want this bike. Dude said he'd knock it down to 140. He seems like he's just selling bikes, which is concerning. There's some gear problems, but he seems like a pretty honest guy.

He's also selling these:

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What do you think?

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Old 05-12-15, 08:31 PM
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this is an absolute bottom ender japan bicycle ca. 1970. value is zilch. it shows nothing to indicate carlton-ness. stay far, far away from bicycle and seller.

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Old 05-12-15, 08:36 PM
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It's a high-priced dud. Toronto seems to be a seller's market though.
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VandalCrown-

Keep looking. These bikes can be easily exceeded for value with further Kijiji or Craigslist searching.
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I love you guys.

What about this?

PEUGEOT - VINTAGE BIKE | road | City of Toronto | Kijiji
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Old 05-12-15, 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by VandalCrown View Post
as shown, it is a $50 bike due to condition. If it were in perfect condition maybe $200 tops.
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Old 05-12-15, 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by oddjob2 View Post
as shown, it is a $50 bike due to condition. If it were in perfect condition maybe $200 tops.
Blue Raleigh Ready to Ride for a taller rider (Yonge-Yorkmills | road | City of Toronto | Kijiji

THIS ONE ;_;

I just want a decent bike for a decent price that won't explode mid-journey ;_;
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Old 05-12-15, 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by VandalCrown View Post
Blue Raleigh Ready to Ride for a taller rider (Yonge-Yorkmills | road | City of Toronto | Kijiji

THIS ONE ;_;

I just want a decent bike for a decent price that won't explode mid-journey ;_;
Nope. The first image that loaded in was of its steel rims. It's also significantly larger framed (25") than the others you've posted. We're glad to help, but I think if you do some more research about vintage bikes you won't need as much help spotting a deal. There's a lot of good resources out there. This site is run by a forum member and will give you an overview of things to look for and things to avoid! BICYCLE QUALITY

Side note: I'm amused by the misspellings in the seller of this Raleigh's keyword spam: "miele, bianchi, nishiki, peogeot, campagnolo campy, simano, selle italia, san marco, fizik"[TABLE]
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VandalCrown -

size matters!

the first machine you inquired about had a 22" frame appropriate to someone ~5'9",

this latest inquiry looks to be a 25 1/2" frame, appropriate to an NBA forward.

learn your size FIRST.
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Old 05-12-15, 10:34 PM
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never buy a bike that has problems with the shifting of the geaars unless you are an amatuer or proffesional bike mechanic will cost you at the bike shop probably more than the bike is worh.

I am a bike flipper I have sold over 400 bikes in 4 years, i have never ever sold a bike that wasnt road ready and mechanicallly sound. A bike flipper that sells bikes that arent ready to go,,KEEP AWAY FROM..

No bike rider and bike lover would send somebody away with a bike that wasnt road ready, only a guy that has only money on his mind does this kinda thing.
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Old 05-13-15, 01:26 AM
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^ i will disagree. there are lots of people out there riding their 10-speeds perfectly safely even though a rear cog skips or the front derailleur isn't setup properly. when listed for sale, these are often the best deals and aren't too difficult to remedy. new freewheels are around $10 and, if you have a bike co-op, you can get a working front derailleur for $5.

because the small bike in the op is orange, it's worth $100 at least.
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Old 05-13-15, 01:41 AM
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Gypped. Used as a term to describe when one has received less than they paid for. Most people do not realize it's a racist term that stems from nomadic 'gypsies' who are stereotyped as theiving criminals. See 'jewed.'
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Don't worry. They made millions & millions of bicycles. I like to look for decent mid-level bikes from the 80's that were used a few times & put in the attic. Try to pay around $50. Once I clean them up they can bring up to $250.
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Old 05-13-15, 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by eschlwc View Post
Gypped. Used as a term to describe when one has received less than they paid for. Most people do not realize it's a racist term that stems from nomadic 'gypsies' who are stereotyped as theiving criminals. See 'jewed.'
I agree. Not a nice word to use.
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I was wondering if that was going to be pointed out. probably the OP did not even know the origin of the word. like people use "paddy wagon" pretty freely. I am Irish and don't really take offense, but usually do tell them they might want to think about it.
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Originally Posted by eschlwc View Post
Gypped. Used as a term to describe when one has received less than they paid for. Most people do not realize it's a racist term that stems from nomadic 'gypsies' who are stereotyped as theiving criminals. See 'jewed.'
And it's not even PC to use the word Gypsy anymore, apparently. They prefer "Roma", I've heard. Or Romani.
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Originally Posted by eschlwc View Post
Gypped. Used as a term to describe when one has received less than they paid for. Most people do not realize it's a racist term that stems from nomadic 'gypsies' who are stereotyped as theiving criminals. See 'jewed.'
My grandma always used to talk about being "jewed" down or whatever and I didn't know what she meant or where that came from until long after she'd passed. I remember the "Aw, Grandma" feeling when I figured it out. I hope she wasn't intentionally a racist. My mom also told me that when she grew up (in a very rural, all white farming community in the north) they caught something other than a tiger by the toe in "Eenie, Meanie, Miney, Moe" and didn't know what the word meant and feels really guilty about it now.
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It's curious people feel ripped off, feel like it's personal, if a seller has a firm bottom price above "market". I have bikes I would sell if the price is right, but not for a "market" price. Why do buyers feel the seller has an obligation to sell their property at what they want to pay, or at the price some others might be charging? It' s my bike, it sells at my price. I've "overpaid" for a bike I wanted, so what? Seller had his minimum price, I saw the value, I was glad to take the bike home.

The reason real estate agents are so pissy about comps and listing price is they have to actually work to sell a house that's listed above market, they have to find the right buyer. Boohoo.
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haha Gipped... dude, just educate yourself a bit. On bikes and slang terms. a days worth of research and you can help yourself. Lots of gems out there, but if something feels too good to be true, it probably is.
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Originally Posted by eschlwc View Post
Gypped. Used as a term to describe when one has received less than they paid for. Most people do not realize it's a racist term that stems from nomadic 'gypsies' who are stereotyped as theiving criminals. See 'jewed.'
Thank you for posting this (you beat me to it). Very offensive term.
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Originally Posted by himespau View Post
My grandma always used to talk about being "jewed" down or whatever and I didn't know what she meant or where that came from until long after she'd passed. I remember the "Aw, Grandma" feeling when I figured it out. I hope she wasn't intentionally a racist. My mom also told me that when she grew up (in a very rural, all white farming community in the north) they caught something other than a tiger by the toe in "Eenie, Meanie, Miney, Moe" and didn't know what the word meant and feels really guilty about it now.
We're probably related cause your grandmother sounds a lot like my mother.
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Bikes. Kijiji. Toronto.

I CANNOT BELIEVE THE ASKING PRICES!!!

I think I am going to take every scrap bike I can find and load it into a U-Haul and take them all to Toronto to sell. As long as the tires hold air and spin (brakes can be removed to facilitate this) I can call it rideable and sell it for a minimum 100.00 (in Toronto) as long as I remember to knock the dirt off. $200 if it is a good (make that known) brand.

... that is - IF the bikes are actually being sold at the asking prices.

You do know, don't you, that it is the buyers, not the seller's, who drive prices up, eh?
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Originally Posted by himespau View Post
My grandma always used to talk about being "jewed" down or whatever and I didn't know what she meant or where that came from until long after she'd passed. I remember the "Aw, Grandma" feeling when I figured it out. I hope she wasn't intentionally a racist. My mom also told me that when she grew up (in a very rural, all white farming community in the north) they caught something other than a tiger by the toe in "Eenie, Meanie, Miney, Moe" and didn't know what the word meant and feels really guilty about it now.
i know exactly where you guys are coming from. i grew up in oklahoma, where we would say things like, "that's mighty white of ya" and "don't be an indian giver" completely oblivious to the irony of our speech.
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Originally Posted by rootboy View Post
And it's not even PC to use the word Gypsy anymore, apparently. They prefer "Roma", I've heard. Or Romani.

They pretty much always have.
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Originally Posted by eschlwc View Post
i know exactly where you guys are coming from. i grew up in oklahoma, where we would say things like, "that's mighty white of ya" and "don't be an indian giver" completely oblivious to the irony of our speech.
And I never thought being an indian giver was a bad thing because I always understood it to be a description of how we treated the native americans (offering them treaties only to change the terms when we found them inconvenient) rather than the other way around.
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