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1985 Cinelli Supercorsa Campagnolo Super Record. What is it worth?

Old 05-19-15, 02:37 PM
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1985 Cinelli Supercorsa Campagnolo Super Record. What is it worth?

Hi, everybody I am new to this site and i'm glad to be here! There is a 1985 Cinelli Supercorsa Campagnolo Super Record bike for sale in my local bike shop. All the parts are original except the rear brake caliper which is a Gran Compe. The stem is a 3TTT adjustable model. The wheelset is modern with Shimano RSX and blue Colnago Ambrosio rims. The frame has been repainted and has new lettering. The rear dropouts have gold paint but I don't know if this is the original color. As far as I can tell, the frame is straight and there are no signs of abuse. What do you think would be a reasonable price to pay for a bike such as this one? If you have any questions please don't hesitate to ask. Thank you so much!
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Photos will be required to make any judgement on value. Drive side, component close ups. Usually repaint = lower value. Could be good for you if you don't mind it but it would have to be a top notch pro job for most people to want a repaint on a bike of this caliber, IMHO.

What is the asking price?
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The picture I have is from before it was repainted. The asking price is $500. I would be keeping and riding the bike myself if I were to purchase it. The main purpose for me posting it on this forum was to see if it was a reasonable price. Thank you!
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That doesn't look like a Cinelli SC to me.
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I think the non-fastback seatstays are a giveaway that the bike is not a Cinelli SC....
Unless it's an older model and the owner can prove it is a Cinelli, I'll be careful before proceeding with the purchase....
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Originally Posted by Kactus View Post
That doesn't look like a Cinelli SC to me.
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I think the non-fastback seatstays are a giveaway that the bike is not a Cinelli SC....
Unless it's an older model and the owner can prove it is a Cinelli, I'll be careful before proceeding with the purchase....
Nevertheless, there is at least $500 worth of parts on that bike, no? Seems more than reasonable to me, whether or not it really is a Cinelli SC.
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The owner is moving and cannot take the bike with them. That is the reason why they are selling it. He worked on the bike often (being that he was a bicycle mechanic himself and worked at the shop I would be purchasing the bike from) so I would assume that this model listed is correct. Therefore it wouldn't surprise me if he switched out a few parts here and there (i.e. non-fastback seat stays). But I will pay close attention to the bike when I go to purchase it and make sure it IS in fact a genuine Cinelli Supercorsa. I'm just wondering, is a "Cinelli SC" and "Cinelli Supercorsa" the same? Thank you!
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SC is short for SuperCorsa. The seat stays (you can't change out seat stays) on an SC are very distinctive and look nothing like the ones on the bike pictured; check Google for photos. I wouldn't be surprised if it has a Cinelli bottom bracket as Cinelli sold bottom brackets to many makers. Many people read "Cinelli" on the BB and assume the bike is a Cinelli and Cinelli decals can be easily purchased online.

There MAY be $500 worth of parts on the bike if you parted it out and listed them on eBay.
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Thank you for the additional information! This gives me a couple questions to ask lol. Although when comparing these two pictures which seem to both be nearly identical to one another in regards to the frame and parts themselves. One is obviously the one I posted originally and the other is a result from google when i searched "1985 cinelli supercorsa". Is it just me or do both of these seem to be the same model bike? Sorry for all the stupid questions, I am just getting "into" vintage bikes and it can be quite intimidating. Thank you for bearing with me and thank god for a resource like this forum!
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Here is what fast back seat stays look like. This is an '85 SC.

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Another:
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how tall are you? the white bike is for a very small person.

the red bike you posted from your search is the only one i see on the first page of results that does not have the fastback seat cluster.

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I'm 5'4. The bike is quite small so I believe it would fit me. I'm just curious, would it be possible for the fast back seat stays to be modified which would result them now looking like non-fast back seat stays? Thank you!
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It could be done (pretty much anything can be done) but it would be expensive and would remove the most distinctive feature on a Cinelli. I think you may be wishing it to be something it's not. It could still be a very nice bike but I'm 99% positive it's not a Cinelli.
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Thank you for your honest opinion! I guess if it seems to good to be true, it probably is!
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Whatever it is (and it's not a SC), there is an easy $500 in parts there. The red bike is not a SC either. I'd love to see better photos of the stem.
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Thank you for your input. After talking with the owner he lowered the price to $400. So I guess it's a great deal!
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At $400, even if the frame is tired, you could get your money out of it and then some with the parts. Be sure to share some photos with us if you buy it.
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If I go and buy it (which would be on Friday or this weekend when I get off work) I will definetly let you know and will post some more pictures. Just curious, would it be possible that although it's not a Cinelli SC, could it still be a Cinelli just a different model? Thanks!
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At $400, even if the frame is tired, you could get your money out of it and then some with the parts. Be sure to share some photos with us if you buy it.
Cyclists get tired; I'm a little skeptical that non-crashed steel frames do, .

$400 is not bad esp. if the bike is in good working order. Since the S is a mechanic and it is being sold through a shop, you can expect the bike to be in good mechanical shape when you buy it.
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400.00 is a break even price, if your thinking of flipping it? The frame is more or less worthless, so you are getting the campy parts for that price which is pretty good. That is, as long as the parts are in good condition. Good Luck
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400.00 is a break even price, if your thinking of flipping it? The frame is more or less worthless, so you are getting the campy parts for that price which is pretty good. That is, as long as the parts are in good condition. Good Luck
Disagree.

The frame is likely of decent quality, and even as a no name, getting 150 should be pretty easy. It is possible that it's a Cinelli...they had some lesser known models I'm not especially familiar with. There is a market for those bikes/frames. It's a frame with super record, so it's probably something decent. I need better photos of the frame to advise on what it is.

The stem looks like it could be something valuable and nice, as does the bar mounted water bottle cage. I suspect these may be special. Just that stem and cage could get you to $250+...I need to see better photos. You have at least $600 net on parts wheels should you part it out...probably a bit more...plus whatever the frame is. If it were in my area I wouldn't be talking about it on line, I'd be hitting the ATM.

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Thank you everyone, I would NOT be selling this bike or flipping it if I bought it. I would be riding it and enjoying it. I think im gonna take your advice KonAaron Snake and go buy it. If I do i'll be sure to post some more pictures!
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If I go and buy it (which would be on Friday or this weekend when I get off work) I will definetly let you know and will post some more pictures. Just curious, would it be possible that although it's not a Cinelli SC, could it still be a Cinelli just a different model? Thanks!
It looks to have been built with Cinelli lugs, I think I see the "flying C" logo on the seatstay caps. Cinelli sold these lugs to anyone as well as, of course, building their own frames with them too. When you have the bike in your hands, you will know more, especially if you upload some photos here.

Good luck with the sale, since you are a newbie, I would take the bike for a test ride and make sure the gears and brakes work well and find out if the tires are tubulars because, if they are, that could be a hassle for you in the future. If they are tubulars, you can probably haggle the price down a bit too.
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I will pay attention to the gears and brakes, and the owner encorages to take all of the refurbished bikes for a test drive. It seems as if the frame says Cinelli in gold, but again you guys may not be able to see that in the picture I posted. I'm looking at the original picture and it's larger and more clear. Thanks for looking out for a "newbie"!

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Hey I was just wondering, could this bike be a Cinelli but not Cinelli? Apparently Cinelli comisioned another brand to produce a bike but the agreement only lasted a year due to an issue. I found a similiar looking bike that is all Cinelli parts and design (and approved by Cinelli) but it is "NOT" a Cinelli. Do any of you guys know anything about this? Could this explain the non-fastback seatstays? Thanks everyone! (I don't know if i'm allowed to post links to a different bike but this is the bike I found; if its not allowed let me know and I can remove the link)
http://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vi...lots-pics.html

I would like to add that on this link below, the font of the "Cinelli" is the same as the original bike I posted and this red bike (in the link) is a Centurion Cinelli Equipe as well.
http://www.velospace.org/files/nov08-5.jpg

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