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Confente Built 1974 Masi...

Old 06-12-15, 03:17 AM
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Confente Built 1974 Masi...

Quite a few, in fact lots, of people ask me to define value for their vintage bicycles. This is always difficult with market variations, bike size, marketing skills... Anyway.

This 1974 Masi, built by Mario Confetti, is up for grabs but first the seller wants to know its value. This is the brief information package that is offered, at this time...

The bike is a 60 cm blue Gran Criterium apparently built in the
USA in 1973 by Mario Confetti (sp?). It has been stored high and dry for
many years in Idaho and now in Jackson, WY. I bought it slightly used in
Denver in 1974. There are 2 sets of wheels, one with sew ups on low flange
wheels and an early set of 700c clinchers on high flange hubs. Everything
is Campy Nuevo Record.


Have a look at the picture...

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I prefer the Pegoretti Linguini myself...and of course my Daniele Manicotti.
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Not much of an image yet, I think the file did not load.

Mr. Confente did make a small number of bikes from start to finish. There are a few significant details to show that. I doubt the bike was from 1973, that year anything that got out the door was a 57 cm. Using the date codes of the components us useless. All the bikes from the Carlsbad plant built with Nuovo Record have 73 coded parts, the initial purchase was that big.

He did much of the brazing early on, there was some other Italian help too for a while. Local hired help would do less critical tasks first, sub assemblies where scrapping the work was less costly.
Even if it is a production bike the market has been treating them well. eBay completed auctions would be worth reviewing right now. Bearing in mind that tall guys are cheap.
An acquaintance did score a Mario built Masi a number of years ago now, he got a deal at under 2k, it was a big bike though and to some probably flew under the radar and was not presented as "made by".

Most claims of a Mario built Masi are just tossing confetti.

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Last time I saw confetti was a Hold Steady show. "Sometimes the bus wouldn't even stop; there was just too many kids"
- Your little hoodrat friend. (Throw confetti)
Bike sounds cool.
And for KAS, this music is old now, but surprised me when new. There is hope for the future yet!!
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Masi of the Vigorelli made Team KAS bikes for a while.
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Randy, your pic link isn't working and his name is Mario Confente not Mario Confetti.
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Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake View Post
I prefer the Pegoretti Linguini myself...and of course my Daniele Manicotti.
Hey, it's dinner time here, but manicotti is too much work for this evening. Linguini and vegetables then.
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Originally Posted by thinktubes View Post
Save that for the movie.
Randy is working on an Atala.
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I prefer Nuevo Confetti. The Spanish stuff. Goes good with a nice dry sherry.
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Got so busy doing my own thing (selling parts, getting bikes, cutting wood...) that little time was available to get pictures. But here they are. Also, a word from the present owner...

"Bike probably made in Carlsbad in 1974. Mario Confente (that is the correct
spelling) was surely in the factory then but whether he made my bike is
perhaps unknowable.
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Are you looking to buy it? Confente or not, that's one nice looking Masi.
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Nice, but a bit small for my tastes.
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Are you looking to buy it? Confente or not, that's one nice looking Masi.
Buy? Good grief, no! I just bought this Atala, last week...



And picked up this Bianchi just this morning...








Now, I don't mind getting Mrs. Me nervous, now and again, but I do not have the nerve to buy three bikes, all worth a buck or two, in less than one month. Sure, I can, usually, employ the N+1 defense, but N+2 and, potentially N+3 - not a snowball's chance in well you know where that was going.

And, in answer to the question. People, through my website, frequently seek help in selling a vintage bicycle. I offer the usual advice, Craigslist, Ebay etc, but sometimes I offer a bike here, hoping to help a fellow forum member.

This is an instance of that.
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Nice bike. Reasonably early in the production, the first 25 were numbered differently, so about number 131. Note for Masi watchers that the lower head lug has a different shape as the down tube enters than the later bikes. This bike has of course the double plate crown and is made from stamped lugs. Material added to the seat lug extending down the seat tube.
As to who made it? Mr. Confente was there and possibly the other Italian builder who helped get things going. Possibly even Mr. Masi.
So, not a bike one could claim made by Mario, but not denied either, I think he had a hand in it due to the seat lug, but not just the extension.
Problem is it is a bigger frame, tall guys are cheap.
$2,600 to $3,200 would be my guess at auction. Might be lower if the wheels are not the original Martanos.
I am assuming the rest of the bike shows in as good a condition as the images presented.
A few years ago a smaller bike that was essentially the same went for $3,400 or so. A surprise at the time, but a size with a wider audience and obviously two bidders who thought they had submitted the winning bid.
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Originally Posted by repechage View Post
Problem is it is a bigger frame, tall guys are cheap.
Isn't a Masi 60cm equal to a 58cm in the real world?
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Isn't a Masi 60cm equal to a 58cm in the real world?
59 center to tip top, so center to top of the top tube... 58.25 to 58.6 cm, center to center, 57-57.25 cm
Masi bike back then do measure small, top tube lengths are more like what you would expect with a larger bike in general.
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Is the owner selling it? Is so, where?
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Is the owner selling it? Is so, where?
The owner's friend wishes to purchase the Masi. The owner was seeking a value, through the forums, so that he can be fair in pricing the bicycle to his friend. Perhaps the bike will come for sale, if the friend does not take the bike.

I believe the owner is watching this thread. Perhaps he has more to offer.
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FWIW Gorgeous Masi.

On my list. Ready to buy one locally that just happens to also be a 1974.

Same color for that matter.

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Originally Posted by gomango View Post
FWIW Gorgeous Masi.

On my list. Ready to buy one locally that just happens to also be a 1974.

Same color for that matter.

Love the Bike. But Please change that bar tape. Looks like it was made from old shop rags.
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Originally Posted by gomango View Post
FWIW Gorgeous Masi.

On my list. Ready to buy one locally that just happens to also be a 1974.

Same color for that matter.

Handsome bike. These bikes are in my view the high watermark for the brand. Yes, the Volumetrica is cool too, so one can have one of those in addition.
Only error in my mind was calling them a Criterium, these were a road bike and would take care of you after a long day on the saddle.
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Handsome bike. These bikes are in my view the high watermark for the brand. Yes, the Volumetrica is cool too, so one can have one of those in addition.
Only error in my mind was calling them a Criterium, these were a road bike and would take care of you after a long day on the saddle.
I missed on a very similar Masi several years ago.

Had a significant dent in the top tube that set me off.

I have "dreamed" more than a few times about that bike, so I'll definitely follow through on one of these eventually.
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I already had my Masi, a 1971 Gran Criterium, as I recall. Sadly, it was just a wee bit too small and now lives in California...

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Hey, it's dinner time here, but manicotti is too much work for this evening. Linguini and vegetables then.
You know you can get carry out at Carrabba's. Rigatoni Campagnolo
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