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1988 Trek 660 - appraisal?

Old 07-22-15, 10:41 AM
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1988 Trek 660 - appraisal?

Hello there,

I've been interested in this local Trek, but not sure what it's worth. The person selling is asking $500, but I still think that's too much. I've seen it, and rode it, seems like it's in great shape. The current owner doesn't know anything about the bearings being repacked or greased, which is a concern.

I'm not sure how original it is, however I do know the wheels, freewheel, stem, and fork aren't original.

Here is the link. Here is what he seller posted:

Up for sale is a 1988 Trek 660. This was a top of the line racing bike back in the day, and was made in the USA. Size 21".

The frame is made of Reynolds 531 and is in good condition, with a Tange TR chrome fork (for a more Italian look). It has a Shimano 600 Crankset with corresponding chainrings, and a Hatta bottom bracket. The front and rear derailleurs are both Shimano 600, as are the aero brakes and the brake levers. The rear cassette is Dura Ace. It has SR Road Champion bars with new Cinelli tape. As you can see, it's kind of a mash up of top of the line parts, put together to squeeze out the best performance possible.

Really not much wrong here. Very light scratches on the crankset, and one or two small paint chips. For some reason, the stem is hard to get really tight. I had it looked at by a bike shop, and they said it was fine to ride. If you plan on riding this a lot, a new stem will probably be needed.

Besides the frame, the most stand out part of this bike is the wheelset.

The front wheel is a Campagnolo Record hub laced to a Mavic Open 4 CD. The rear is also Record, but is laced to a Mavic MA40. Brand new Continental Ultra Sport tires. What's amazing is how little this bike has been raced. The rims have little brake wear, and except for a few spots (which have been covered up with new paint, namely the rear lug cluster), the paint is in absolutely stellar condition.

I'm selling this because, well, it doesn't fit me. Sad, but true. I'd love if it did. I've been wanting one of these old steel racers for a while, and when this popped up I bought it without really thinking about it, for way way to much money. I'd love if it could get to a good home.
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Old 07-22-15, 10:50 AM
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Too many non-original parts, a real mishmash. Seller is trying to cover up a parts-bin build with BS but I can see right through it. Chrome fork is a huge turn-off for me. Even at $500 I wouldn't be remotely interested. And I love 531 Treks.

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"with a Tange TR chrome fork (for a more Italian look)" because the original fork got crashed

"it's kind of a mash up of top of the line parts, put together to squeeze out the best performance possible." because that's what I had laying around. Also, most parts are not top of the line

"For some reason, the stem is hard to get really tight." not sure what's going on here, but threaded stems should not be "really tight" anyway
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Originally Posted by FastJake View Post
Too many non-original parts, a real mishmash. Seller is trying to cover up a parts-bin build with BS but I can see right through it. Chrome fork is a huge turn-off for me. Even at $500 I wouldn't be remotely interested. And I love 531 Treks.

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"with a Tange TR chrome fork (for a more Italian look)" because the original fork got crashed

"it's kind of a mash up of top of the line parts, put together to squeeze out the best performance possible." because that's what I had laying around. Also, most parts are not top of the line

"For some reason, the stem is hard to get really tight." not sure what's going on here, but threaded stems should not be "really tight" anyway
Thanks for the reply, this info really helps.

What do you think would be a good deal for this bike? $300? $400?
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Old 07-22-15, 11:29 AM
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Well I know it is Cali, but the mismatch detracts big time, the replacement fork is a red flag as either the bike was crashed or possibly stolen, then stripped/resold (my opinion). As is I believe it to be a 200-250 tops bike, even in California.
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Originally Posted by 10mg View Post
Thanks for the reply, this info really helps.

What do you think would be a good deal for this bike? $300? $400?
I agree with $250. I also love 600 tri-color so I'm extra biased. But of course this is not full tri-color, as the hubs are missing. Record hubs are very nice but I believe these ones are significantly older and don't fit with the bike. Of course the rims are also mismatched.
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Yeah, a mish-mash. It is still a nice bike, and assuming the frame is not bent due to a front end crash, I would say $300 or so.
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Originally Posted by dailycommute View Post
Well I know it is Cali, but the mismatch detracts big time, the replacement fork is a red flag as either the bike was crashed or possibly stolen, then stripped/resold (my opinion). As is I believe it to be a 200-250 tops bike, even in California.
Originally Posted by FastJake View Post
I agree with $250. I also love 600 tri-color so I'm extra biased. But of course this is not full tri-color, as the hubs are missing. Record hubs are very nice but I believe these ones are significantly older and don't fit with the bike. Of course the rims are also mismatched.
Originally Posted by lostarchitect View Post
Yeah, a mish-mash. It is still a nice bike, and assuming the frame is not bent due to a front end crash, I would say $300 or so.
I really appreciate the input guys, it puts things in perspective. I agree with the things said, and I am not into the fork either. It's just the frame was in such good shape!
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About $425, maybe $450 in Portland.

Asking price seems reasonable if they'll take $450.

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Old 07-23-15, 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets View Post
About $425, maybe $450 in Portland.

Asking price seems reasonable if they'll take $450.
The seller was ultra sketchy. I asked him about the fact that "stem doesn't fully tighten" and he didn't have a good answer. I think that there is some damage from the "accident" which is the most likely reason why they removed the Trek fork for some weird looking chrome fork. Also, the headset wasn't stock, and thus leads me to believe there were some major issues, which would explain the fork, headset, and stem not fitting.

He said no less than $500, bottom line. Forget that!
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Old 07-23-15, 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by 10mg View Post
The seller was ultra sketchy. He said no less than $500, bottom line. Forget that!
Good move. I like the line about, "If you plan on riding this a lot, a new stem will probably be needed." So if you ride it a little the loose stem is safe, more miles means replace it. Logical

I bought a chrome replacement fork once to replace one that was bent. It was fully disclosed on an 80's Trek, a lesser model than a 660. I think I sold it for $225.
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Old 07-23-15, 09:26 PM
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Being a 531 Trek, I'd go a bit higher than the reasonably suggested 250.00. This guy is asking crazy money.
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Originally Posted by wrk101 View Post
Forks don't get lost. They get removed on purpose. They are either removed because of a crash (95% of the time) or removed to upgrade to carbon or the latest/greatest (5% of the time). I always assume the former unless I personally know the history of the bike.

"For a more Italian look" = Classic.....

Want a more Italian look? Surely you didn't toss the original fork, right?
+ 1. This bike very likely has been crashed. I don't trust anything about this ad. Pass.
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