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SPECIALIZED Allez SE, interested in the year of fabrication and value

Old 07-23-15, 07:29 PM
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SPECIALIZED Allez SE, interested in the year of fabrication and value

I will do my own researches, but willing to know your opinion too.
The advices which I got from you guys, in the past, helped me a lot. Thank you

All Shimano 600
Sorry, some pictures are bad...
I changed the shifting cables, but not the brakes, yet.
I can put another bar tape black. This one I think is original, but is it too short.
Any other ideas?










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My year model 1993 Specialized is with STI. Yours is older. That is not a bad thing, it looks in very good shape, and should ride nice. Steel Frame & Fork today new today is 1000-2000 bucks.

Bike is worth more to you than some buy will give you I am sure. If the Rear End is 130 mm when not put 11 speed on it, and ride it.
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I don't think I will modify anything in the bike.
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It says "Jim Mertz" on it.
I have no idea who is he...???

I had a 1984-85 Sequoia.
Which of these two should be better quality?
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from Classic Rendezvous:

"Jim Merz built bike frames in Portland, OR from 1973 until late in 1982, then he shut down his shop and went to work for Specialized as a designer. Merz could build a track or 'cross bike, and built superlative road racing bikes, but touring bikes were where he stood out. He made bikes with tubular steel racks--generally shorter and quicker steering than most other touring rigs of his time--and matching panniers also made in Portland."
"Jim started riding a Campagnolo equipped bike in 1964, just after high school. Jim worked as a machinist and taught himself frame building from his metalworking background. He opened his own shop at NW 21st and Everett. Over 400 frames were produced, using Columbus, Reynolds 531 and 753 tubing including two 753 frames (He was the first USA builder certified to use 753) for pro rider George Mount. Merz used BCM lugs and crowns, finished seat stays with flat tops a la Schwinn Paramount, and decorated the bikes with simple graphics and paint. His painter was Virginia Church."
"To this day, many Portland bikies consider Merz machines in high regard, even the best bikes ever made. Jim was a resident of Bainbridge Island, WA, working for the Browning company, until his recent return to Specialized as their "Master frame builder".
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The tires are from the mid 80's, I recently put a similar pair on a bike (TURBO/RK4) they are listed as 25mm, but actual is more like 20mm. Nice and fast, and supple for NOS tires.
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Originally Posted by howsteepisit View Post
from Classic Rendezvous:

"Jim Merz built bike frames in Portland, OR from 1973 until late in 1982, then he shut down his shop and went to work for Specialized as a designer. Merz could build a track or 'cross bike, and built superlative road racing bikes, but touring bikes were where he stood out. He made bikes with tubular steel racks--generally shorter and quicker steering than most other touring rigs of his time--and matching panniers also made in Portland."
"Jim started riding a Campagnolo equipped bike in 1964, just after high school. Jim worked as a machinist and taught himself frame building from his metalworking background. He opened his own shop at NW 21st and Everett. Over 400 frames were produced, using Columbus, Reynolds 531 and 753 tubing including two 753 frames (He was the first USA builder certified to use 753) for pro rider George Mount. Merz used BCM lugs and crowns, finished seat stays with flat tops a la Schwinn Paramount, and decorated the bikes with simple graphics and paint. His painter was Virginia Church."
"To this day, many Portland bikies consider Merz machines in high regard, even the best bikes ever made. Jim was a resident of Bainbridge Island, WA, working for the Browning company, until his recent return to Specialized as their "Master frame builder".
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I am no expert but it looks to me like mid 80s from the shimano 600 ..maybe 1986 or so? Beautiful bike... id love to find a clean 80s allez.
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after my researches, it should be 1986, but I cannot find a catalog page.
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1986 SPECIALIZED ?Allez SE? Jim Merz Edition 55.5cm ROAD BIKE | GALAXY BIKES


Could be a? Beautiful.
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Yes I saw this add. But I would like to see the catalog page.
I found only the 1985 page, the Allez SE is equiped with Suntour Superbe, like the Sequoia I had:

13 Specs | Specialized Catalogue 1985 | Retrobike
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I had one just like that and sold it to Frogbutter. Spokesniffer on Flickr was in the design team w/ Marc DeNucci and Merz when this was designed. There was a lot on mis-information out there in regards to the frame.
"Spoke Sniffer 63 months ago


Actually, Mark DiNucci designed this one. I worked on it with him. Merz, quit designing the bikes the year before and focused on a few, specific long term projects."

He got a little deeper into things off-line and that is where he asked it stay.
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Wow, that's a nice clean looking Allez.
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I was thinking that a fair price would be 400.
What do you think???
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$400 seems low, but maybe the old clipless pedals, dry-rotted tires, and dorky saddle are holding it back. Frame looks to be in superb condition.
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$400 seems low, but maybe the old clipless pedals, dry-rotted tires, and dorky saddle are holding it back. Frame looks to be in superb condition.
I have some Shimano PD-M747 (used)... should I use them??
I have some new saddles but not quality
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$400 seems low, but maybe the old clipless pedals, dry-rotted tires, and dorky saddle are holding it back. Frame looks to be in superb condition.
Thanks, for your reply.
Sold for more than 400$
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