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marius.suiram 09-24-15 06:27 PM

Mondia Special
 
This bike is for sale for 350$.
The serial number is 176xxx, I don't remember the last three digits
I have only one picture, I don't know the components.
Is it a fair price, if it is a Reynolds 531 frame?

http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/...psu7olclsd.jpg

Flog00 09-24-15 07:41 PM

Not enough information. If it has all campy goodies, $350 might be okay.

howsteepisit 09-24-15 07:46 PM

What I can see is a steel cottered crank and a Simplex FD, I'd say $350 is too high.

big chainring 09-24-15 07:47 PM

Looks sweet. Cottered cranks!? Could be something really nice. TTT stem, leather saddle. I would certainly consider it. And $350 is very reasonable.

american psycho 09-24-15 09:26 PM

hell yes! swiss bikes rule!

how do i know? i had the same bike (was a tigra) with the chromed nervex lugwork that BB very well could be the über-rare campy one, the steel cranks and cheap french threaded pedals, the tipo high-flange hubs, brroks saddle.

xiaoman1 09-24-15 10:46 PM

A little high...a few on L.A. craigslist all campy (does not appear this one is) for weeks at 500.00
JM2C's

marius.suiram 09-25-15 05:57 PM

I will see tomorrow, if still available, I will offer 150$.

daf1009 09-25-15 06:02 PM

Should be interesting to hear what happens!!!

Wildwood 09-26-15 03:11 AM


Originally Posted by marius.suiram (Post 18194803)
I will see tomorrow, if still available, I will offer 150$.

Not sure from the pic but looks like there is more than a little rust. Then saw you are in Cleveland, so make sure there is no 'bubbly' paint with rust underneath. Winter roads in salted towns are tough. This bike may have been a winter commuter given the rack. $150 if the frame isn't rusted out.

marius.suiram 09-26-15 02:45 PM


Originally Posted by daf1009 (Post 18194815)
Should be interesting to hear what happens!!!

I got it for 65$, one hour before the estate sale should be close. At least the Brooks worth 65$.
And I bought a Austro-Daimler, nice condition, Shimano 600 , Brooks saddle for 100$. Just sold yesterday the one I had, in worse condition with Suntour components for 230$.
I think I got a good deal!

cb400bill 09-26-15 02:48 PM

Pics?

coolkat 09-26-15 03:26 PM

Wow, 350 down to 65, that's some serious haggling! Nice! Cool bike for sure

daf1009 09-26-15 05:14 PM

Cooolll....pics now!!! Of both!

marius.suiram 09-26-15 05:42 PM

Some pics of Mondia

Reynolds 531 tubes, forks and stays
3TTT Record stem
3TTT Bars
Nervar crank set
Simplex derailleurs and leveres
Weinmann 610 brakes
Lyotard pedals
Weinmnann 700 rims with Sunshin hubs

http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/...psdptjijpr.jpg
http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/...pscdrzqg77.jpg
http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/...psmkmpvukq.jpg
http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/...psjln8ojyl.jpg
http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/...psjq8vrerb.jpg
http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/...psj5yfciuc.jpg
http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/...psmxvhw7uy.jpg
http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/...pslhw24lwj.jpg
http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/...psixlhrxno.jpg

marius.suiram 09-26-15 05:47 PM

I will take pics of AD tomorrow, it is a SL not a Vent-Noir
It is not a light bike, but I want to show you the score of the week!
1939 Elgin

http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/...psqyuw6ndf.jpg
http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/...psyiajwwkz.jpg

marius.suiram 09-27-15 12:09 PM

the Austro-Daimler
Shimano 600, Apex crank set, Weinmann 610 brakes, Weinmann rims, Normandy hubs, SR stem and bars

http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/...ps9f4eu4i2.jpg
http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/...psnpaaeeqc.jpg
http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/...psnlxca6vl.jpg
http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/...psqj99prvk.jpg
http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/...psmgarbqb3.jpg
http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/...psaxp0de8i.jpg
http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/...ps0ou4um6m.jpg
http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/...psqbadwrkg.jpg

marius.suiram 09-28-15 01:53 PM

I think I made a bad deal... no comments...:(

daf1009 09-28-15 04:39 PM


Originally Posted by marius.suiram (Post 18201226)
I think I made a bad deal... no comments...:(

I would say you scored on all three!

JamesRL 09-28-15 04:50 PM

I think there was a little silence while we waited for someone to disparage the Arabesque on the AD. There was a recent thread.

I like the AD, the Mondia has a lot of rust on the top tube, fancy lugs though.

marius.suiram 09-28-15 05:16 PM

The A-D has a Brooks too, but I'll keep it. I had a Wright's to put instead.

This is the Austro-Daimler SL that I sold one day before I bought the grey one.
531 Reynolds, Suntour VG-T derailleur, the rest is almost the same

http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/...psqjgba6g2.jpg

eschlwc 09-28-15 10:57 PM

that mondia is so rad. love it.

marius.suiram 09-29-15 12:59 PM

How should I remove the rust??

eschlwc 09-29-15 05:40 PM

rust ...

- dunk the components in a can of mineral spirits for a few hours.
- follow up with naval jelly (loctite brand).
- polish components with a file, auto sandpaper (600 grit), and mother's.
- for chrome, try aluminum foil and wd-40.
- for frame rust, search the bikeforums. if it's real bad, you may need to soak the frame in a tub or kiddie pool full of phosphoric acid.

for my one frame that i wanted to sell that had bad surface rust, i used sandpaper, then did some paint work.

if it's just surface rust on the frame, and you aren't going to sell it, you may just want to leave it alone, possibly using a clear nail polish to prevent further rusting.

xiaoman1 09-29-15 06:14 PM


Originally Posted by marius.suiram (Post 18204056)
How should I remove the rust??

I would try a little polishing compound, don't rub it very hard just enough to clean what you can...you do not want to cut through the paint.
If you are lucky a lot of it will come off, after that good quality paste wax....if it were mine I would not clear coat it wax is all you will need...do it once in awhile as service.
Mondia's are nice and short of a high dollar respray I don't think it would be worth it ... remember it has a great look and is only original once. Enjoy it you almost got it for free....after all it's a bike.
In my opinion is that its the nicest of the bunch.
JM2C's Ben
change the crank to campy or sugino

rootboy 10-01-15 10:04 AM

Very interesting Mondia. That model came fully equipped with Campy NR components so at some time the parts got seriously down graded, for some reason. For sixty five bucks, you made one heckuva score on that frame. Always liked those. Looks like the rust will clean up OK. But be super careful around those decals. They're very delicate at this point. Especially the pin-striping-looking ones. I personally wouldn't use polishing compound near those. Unless you are very careful. Maybe a light Oxalic acid solution first.

Is the bottom bracket Swiss threaded? Be careful.


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