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Old 11-06-15, 01:23 PM
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Bianchi mtb

Can anyone tell me the year and/or model?

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Not enough detail to know for sure. Does it have a model name on the tube? I can't read it. Does it have any tubing decals?

However, the rear U-brake places it firmly in the '87-'91 era.
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Not enough detail to know for sure. Does it have a model name on the tube? I can't read it. Does it have any tubing decals?

However, the rear U-brake places it firmly in the '87-'91 era.
I just have the picture for now. I am going to see it tomorrow but I'd prefer to have a little more info before I go. I spoke with the guy selling it on the phone and could barely understand his accent so I couldn't find out any more info from him. I think it might be some kind of early 90s Grizzly.
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Well, that's a good start. The Grizzly was their top-end rigid MTB, with their best steel frame and usually had a full XT group (the best group at the time). Which is good, because the XT U-brake is one of the few that was worth a damn.

Bianchi catalogs online are spotty and rarely cover their US lineup, so I can't find anything more specific. But their hierarchy went (top to bottom): Grizzly, Peregrine, Sika, Osprey, Nyala, Ocelot.

What's he asking for the bike? It looks to be in good shape at least.
It's hard to get more than $200 out of a vintage MTB, even if it was $1000 in 1988. That said, high-end rigid MTBs are kickass and make great touring/commuting/gravel bikes.

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Well, that's a good start. The Grizzly was their top-end rigid MTB, with their best steel frame and usually had a full XT group (the best group at the time). Which is good, because the XT U-brake is one of the few that was worth a damn.

Bianchi catalogs online are spotty and rarely cover their US lineup, so I can't find anything more specific. But their hierarchy went (top to bottom): Grizzly, Peregrine, Sika, Osprey, Nyala, Ocelot.

What's he asking for the bike? It looks to be in good shape at least.
It's hard to get more than $200 out of a vintage MTB, even if it was $1000 in 1988. That said, high-end rigid MTBs are kickass and make great touring/commuting/gravel bikes.
He wants $20 It needs a new saddle and the front brake needs repairing, but as long as the frame is in tact I will probably take it - unless he gets a better offer before I show up tomorrow!
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I brought her home. It's a Grizzly. How do I go about determining the year? By the components? Pretty much everything is shimano deore LX except for the shifters which are DX.
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I brought her home. It's a Grizzly. How do I go about determining the year? By the components? Pretty much everything is shimano deore LX except for the shifters which are DX.
Here's the date code link: Shimano date codes

You did really well to score a Grizzly for $20 ($20 Canadian even!). Congrats!
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Here's the date code link: Shimano date codes

You did really well to score a Grizzly for $20 ($20 Canadian even!). Congrats!
Thanks! As I think you may already know I've been looking for a cheap rigid mtb to use as a beater/winter commuter for a while now. I got burned twice by buying bad frames (at least I acquired some extra parts though). So I think I have finally found the ONE! lol.

I checked out the date codes which put the components at '89. A google search for '89 reveals that the '89 is a lugged frame and mine is not.
1989 Bianchi Grizzly 21.5" Lugged Frame - rivendell - bridgestone - surly

So maybe a '90?

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That bike looks to be great small rigid frame MTB the high end ones from the late 80's make for great commuters. You did great for $20 since you can get a nice seat and different brakes if needed for $30-40 and basically have a nice commuter for under $100.
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@LoriRose -- Nicely bought, considering someone spent $1k (USD) on it when it was new (which is roughly $2500 in 2015 money). I picked up an '88 Schwinn KOM ($1k new) in worse shape than that for $75, and I consider it a steal (full Tange Prestige frame and full XT group).

Like I said, vintage Bianchi catalogs for North America don't seem to be available online, so I can't give you more specific information. You'll have to go off the date codes on the Shimano stuff.

Bikepedia (which starts with 1993 models) seems to think that the Grizzly was lugged steel up through 1996. Are you sure yours isn't lugged at all? Even partially? Check the bottom bracket.

Since it's an extra-small frame, it may have some quirks compared to the larger frames.

For example, lugs work with a tight set of angles, and an extra-small frame may have angles outside that range. And they would have needed to custom file the head lugs down to fit on such a short head tube. Therefore, it may have been tig welded or fillet brazed for some of the joints. (Tig welding leaves "toothpaste" weld marks, where fillets are smooth.)

Likewise, I've never seen another Grizzly with U-brakes on the seat stays; they seem to have chainstay U-brakes or cantilevers on the seat stay. Possibly another quirk of an extra-small frame? U-brakes don't have as high of a straddle cable, so maybe they work better on that frame?
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@LoriRose -- Nicely bought, considering someone spent $1k (USD) on it when it was new (which is roughly $2500 in 2015 money). I picked up an '88 Schwinn KOM ($1k new) in worse shape than that for $75, and I consider it a steal (full Tange Prestige frame and full XT group).

Like I said, vintage Bianchi catalogs for North America don't seem to be available online, so I can't give you more specific information. You'll have to go off the date codes on the Shimano stuff.

Bikepedia (which starts with 1993 models) seems to think that the Grizzly was lugged steel up through 1996. Are you sure yours isn't lugged at all? Even partially? Check the bottom bracket.

Since it's an extra-small frame, it may have some quirks compared to the larger frames.

For example, lugs work with a tight set of angles, and an extra-small frame may have angles outside that range. And they would have needed to custom file the head lugs down to fit on such a short head tube. Therefore, it may have been tig welded or fillet brazed for some of the joints. (Tig welding leaves "toothpaste" weld marks, where fillets are smooth.)

Likewise, I've never seen another Grizzly with U-brakes on the seat stays; they seem to have chainstay U-brakes or cantilevers on the seat stay. Possibly another quirk of an extra-small frame? U-brakes don't have as high of a straddle cable, so maybe they work better on that frame?
I've got almost certain confirmation that it's a '90 via another BF member. He provided me with a list of specs which all seem to match.

MSL was $922 CDN. The frame is Tange Infinity with hi-tensile steel in the rear triangle. The forks are listed as CrMo. Derailleurs, shifters, brakes, crankset and pedals are all listed as Deore LX. The rims and tires were sourced from Ritchey. The headset should a Tioga Avenger while the saddle was an Avocet R-20. The seat post was listed as Kalloy while the bars and stems were from HL.
He said that the Canadian models had Deore LX as opposed to the US models which had suntour components so this was most certainly throwing me off the hunt.

I've been cleaning, tuning and polishing her up all day! The frame is in great shape save for a small dent on the top tube and a bunch of paint blemishes that look like dings from rocks. It looks like the bike was well-used but also well-maintained, at least until recently. I am very happy with my purchase and look forward to getting her ready for winter!
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