hansgregorius

Hi guys,

I have a question about this Colnago bike. The seller said its a Colnago Super. But I never seen Colnago Super with this color scheme.
Do you guys think this is a real Colnago frame? Or maybe its already repainted.
How much will you guys pay for it?

Thank you.

CliffordK

Since it has a Colnago rear dropout (I think, it is hard to read in the photo), a few clover cut-outs, and Colnago marked fork, I'd say that it is probably a genuine Colnago.

Can you get a better view of the top of the seatstays, the bottom of the bottom bracket, and all the lugs?

I'm thinking maybe a mid 80's bike (83?)

I can't say for sure about the paint. Like you, I'm not sure I've seen that paint scheme on a Colnago Super, so I'm leaning towards either changing the badges, or a respray paint job.

Value?
It looks like 8s Campagnolo (model?)

I'm thinking $800 to $1000. I wouldn't go any higher unless you can confirm pristine original condition, and not a respray.

hansgregorius

Yes the Dropout is colnago dropout I think.

I'm asking the seller for more photos.
Do you have any tips to check if the paint original or not?

OldsCOOL

Check near the chainstay for paint chipping (or anyplace it chipped) to check for original color not matching topcoat. Also, you can check near lugs to see how crisp the lines are. You should google a guess at a mid-80's Super and see what comes up on "images". You may see something similar.

And +1 to what CliffordK said.

ETA: It's my inclination to believe it is NOT a repaint. The paint scheme is quite complex to duplicate even though I didnt see anything like this on the internet after a short search. Look at the dropout pic, the fade has a factory/shop professional look to it. If it's a repaint, I certainly cant determine from this set of pics. I love the double clubs panto on top of the BB shell.

hansgregorius

here is the extra picture of it.

what do you think?

hansgregorius

I already put the extra picture of it.

Do you think it worth more than 600 euro?

OldsCOOL

That's 644.00 USD. I'd buy it (fitment granted).

CliffordK

The paint has several colors, but there are no sharp lines or complex shapes that would have come later with the art decor bikes. Any person experienced with air brushing should be able to do this paint job, or perhaps one significantly nicer. It is difficult to capture the quality of paint feathering in a photo.

Unfortunately I don't get to see a lot of Colnago bikes up close

What is Colnago's history of the use of decals vs stencils.

My old Colnago Super (late 60's or early 70's) seems to have some characteristics that makes me think it had all of the logos painted on.
By the mid 70's, it appears as if Colnago was using quite a few decals, I think. What was the quality of the originals?
By the 90's and art decor models, I think they were back to either painting, or very high quality decal work.

So, I might go a bit by whether it appears as if the logos were just stuck on top, or are incorporated in the paint.

No doubt, a company like Cyclart does some excellent quality work, which may be difficult to distinguish from an original.

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Have you asked the seller about the history of the bicycle?

If the bike is local, at some point you'll have to go inspect the bike in person and judge it for yourself.

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Ahhh, Euros, not dollars.

You haven't mentioned where you're located.

600€ = $645.

Here in the USA, I think it would definitely be worth $645, although nice Colnago/Campagnolo bikes are still somewhat of a rarity. It is hard to say in Europe where I think they're easier to acquire.

The biggest problem is that everything indicates that the Colnago Super finished production in the early 80's, but your paint job appears to be from the late 80's or early 90's. 8-speed Campagnolo Brifters were also introduced in 1992. And, such an incongruity leaves some questions.

Nonetheless, it is a nice, and perhaps very unique bike. So, yes, that sounds like a good price, but you'll have to consider what YOU WANT as well as your local market.

hansgregorius

The seller said he rarely used the bike. And also he's just selling it for his friend. He knows nothing about the bike. Even when I asked about the size of the frame.
Yes some parts leave some questions, like the RD. I suspect that the RD is a mtb RD not a road bike RD isn't it?
And also I've never seen colnago frame with such a Panto. ( Panto on top of the BB shell, No panto near the Seatpost )

I'm going to check the bike on Tuesday probably.
What should I check on the bike if its repaint or not? Because this is the first time for me buying Colnago bike.

tronnyjenkins 

It might be hard to tell depending on the professionalism of a potential re-painter. That being said, trust your gut. Look for errors in the paint. Look at where the fades occur and around the hardware.

Full disclosure, I know nothing about Colnagos except that I would love to have one. I'd probably consider it at that price even if it is a respray. I happen to think it looks cool.

Last ride 76 

Late to the party but, yes it's a Colnago imo (and I have seen a few) , what model, hard to say. Original paint, I would guess yes. Some of their paint jobs.... Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. At 600 up to 700 euros buy, at 900 euros sell, unless you can find out more about the model and provenance than we know now. That's my range. Cheers, Eric