Classic and Vintage Bicycles: Whats it Worth? Appraisals. Use this subforum for all requests as to "How much is this vintage bike worth?"Do NOT try to sell it in here, use the Marketplaces.

Unknown vintage Raleigh

Old 11-10-15, 08:22 AM
  #1  
Trouser press
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 11
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Unknown vintage Raleigh

Hi all, hoping someone can help identify this vintage Raleigh frame that was given to me by my next door neighbours family (the old man is now very sick and in a home, the family are clearing the house- they didn't really know anything about it other than it had been in his garage for many years). As you can see it was re-painted in his club colours: Devonport cycle club, so I'm not sure that the Reynolds sticker is correct one for the frame or a later version. From my google research it looks a bit like a Rakeigh Lenton?, but the cable guides around the bottom bracket might be wrong. Lugs are very plain and dull. The seriel number looks like 624214 and then could be an O or a C Thans for any help you can offer.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg
raleigh5.jpg (25.5 KB, 136 views)
File Type: jpg
raleigh4.jpg (36.8 KB, 143 views)
File Type: jpg
raleigh3.jpg (40.6 KB, 141 views)
File Type: jpg
raleigh2.jpg (32.0 KB, 143 views)
File Type: jpg
raleigh1.jpg (26.6 KB, 132 views)
Trouser press is offline  
Old 11-10-15, 08:27 AM
  #2  
oddjob2
Still learning
 
oddjob2's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: North of Canada, Adirondacks, NNJ
Posts: 11,580

Bikes: Too many

Mentioned: 87 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quoted: 823 Post(s)
Liked 5 Times in 5 Posts
Nice Reynolds 531 tubeset. A photo of the entire bike frame would be helpful too.
oddjob2 is offline  
Old 11-10-15, 08:45 AM
  #3  
USAZorro
Señor Member
 
USAZorro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Florence, KY
Posts: 16,214

Bikes: Mostly English - predominantly Raleighs

Mentioned: 48 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 695 Post(s)
Liked 8 Times in 8 Posts
I don't see online catalogues for the time period, but I think that would be a Lenton, from somewhere between 1963 - 1966. As far as variations in things like lugs and braze-ons, I have to constantly remind myself that, "with Raleigh, all things are possible".
__________________
In search of what to search for.
USAZorro is offline  
Old 11-10-15, 08:48 AM
  #4  
NormanF
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 5,734
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 140 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
The Club Special thread I posted shows a period correct Raleigh bicycle.

Sold only as far as I know, in Japan.
NormanF is offline  
Old 11-10-15, 09:02 AM
  #5  
Trouser press
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 11
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thank you for all your help. Here's a pic of the frame, I also have some bits to go with it, but unfortunately the son in-law had already thrown the stem and bars, half the chainset and various other bits away!
Attached Images
File Type: jpg
Raleigh Lenton.jpg (98.2 KB, 150 views)
Trouser press is offline  
Old 11-10-15, 09:05 AM
  #6  
NormanF
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 5,734
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 140 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
A Raleigh Lenton!

Back in the day, it was a classic club bicycle.

As I mentioned, the photo on my thread should show you how to restore it!
NormanF is offline  
Old 11-10-15, 09:13 AM
  #7  
Trouser press
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 11
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I might not be allowed to keep it. Too many bikes according to the wife. What would be the value of a frame set lke this?
Trouser press is offline  
Old 11-10-15, 09:17 AM
  #8  
NormanF
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 5,734
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 140 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Trouser press View Post
I might not be allowed to keep it. Too many bikes according to the wife. What would be the value of a frame set lke this?
You're better off posing the question in C&V Appraisals forum. Someone there can give you an estimate of what its roughly worth.
NormanF is offline  
Old 11-10-15, 09:21 AM
  #9  
3speedslow
Senior Member
 
3speedslow's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Jacksonville, NC
Posts: 7,272

Bikes: A few

Mentioned: 92 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1240 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 25 Times in 22 Posts
Originally Posted by Trouser press View Post
I might not be allowed to keep it. Too many bikes according to the wife. What would be the value of a frame set lke this?
Not if you keep leaving it on the couch ! Ha.

appraisal forum is a good place to post this. Good luck. Hope you do get to keep it.

Sad, glory days for the old guy wrapped up in that frame. Power to those pedals while the wind blows through his hair...
3speedslow is offline  
Old 11-10-15, 09:21 AM
  #10  
Brian Mc
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Central Iowa
Posts: 44

Bikes: 51 Lenton Tourist, 58 Raleigh Sports, 71 Carlton Critirium, 75 Raleigh Super Course II

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I have a very rough Lenton Tourist with all main bits. It's too small for me. Either you need my bits (alloy stem, flat mustache bars, stem, rims.... or I need to relieve you of that perfect fitting (for me) frame. Biketrailrider at the yahoo!
Brian Mc is offline  
Old 11-10-15, 09:51 AM
  #11  
Trouser press
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 11
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Brian Mc View Post
I have a very rough Lenton Tourist with all main bits. It's too small for me. Either you need my bits (alloy stem, flat mustache bars, stem, rims.... or I need to relieve you of that perfect fitting (for me) frame. Biketrailrider at the yahoo!
Well, I said to the family that I would try to re-build it and take it into the home for him to see, I might have to store it at work away from the wife though. So I guess I might need some of your bits...
Trouser press is offline  
Old 11-10-15, 10:05 AM
  #12  
Brian Mc
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Central Iowa
Posts: 44

Bikes: 51 Lenton Tourist, 58 Raleigh Sports, 71 Carlton Critirium, 75 Raleigh Super Course II

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
http://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vi...ugh-shape.html
Brian Mc is offline  
Old 11-10-15, 10:10 AM
  #13  
Trouser press
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 11
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
These are all the bits I have 2 sets of wheels, 2 sets of mudguards, half of two different chainsets and his old tool roll.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg
tool kit.jpg (66.8 KB, 115 views)
File Type: jpg
chainset.jpg (68.3 KB, 113 views)
File Type: jpg
mudguards.jpg (46.4 KB, 114 views)
File Type: jpg
wheel2.jpg (80.3 KB, 114 views)
File Type: jpg
wheel1.jpg (90.5 KB, 115 views)
Trouser press is offline  
Old 11-10-15, 10:10 AM
  #14  
Brian Mc
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Central Iowa
Posts: 44

Bikes: 51 Lenton Tourist, 58 Raleigh Sports, 71 Carlton Critirium, 75 Raleigh Super Course II

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I'd guess that your frame was a Lenton Sports. My parts are for the more rare Lenton Tourist. If so, the bike you take to him with my parts won't look like the bike he had.
Brian Mc is offline  
Old 11-10-15, 10:22 AM
  #15  
Brian Mc
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Central Iowa
Posts: 44

Bikes: 51 Lenton Tourist, 58 Raleigh Sports, 71 Carlton Critirium, 75 Raleigh Super Course II

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Ah! Mudguards! Between the two of us we have the makings of an interesting bike.
Brian Mc is offline  
Old 11-10-15, 10:25 AM
  #16  
Trouser press
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 11
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Brian Mc View Post
I'd guess that your frame was a Lenton Sports. My parts are for the more rare Lenton Tourist. If so, the bike you take to him with my parts won't look like the bike he had.
I see. Not sure which bit's belong with his bike as there was also a late 70's early 80's Raleigh Olympus frame in the garage. Will any of your parts be the same? Stem, left crank arms...!!! rims? Saddle? I still might be interested in your parts, the issue is going to be shipping as I'm in the UK.
Trouser press is offline  
Old 11-10-15, 10:37 AM
  #17  
Brian Mc
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Central Iowa
Posts: 44

Bikes: 51 Lenton Tourist, 58 Raleigh Sports, 71 Carlton Critirium, 75 Raleigh Super Course II

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Yes, that is problematic for shipping. My saddle is shot. My crank doesn't look like either of the pictured cranks. My rear rim is a three speed and the front rim is questionable as to truing. My bike is from 1951, so who knows if any of it is correct.

While I am a noob and there are TONS more knowledgeable folks here, I'd guess yours to be a five speed version of this:

1960's RALEIGH LENTON SPORTS 23" Benelux Made In England All original paint
Brian Mc is offline  
Old 11-10-15, 10:43 AM
  #18  
Brian Mc
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Central Iowa
Posts: 44

Bikes: 51 Lenton Tourist, 58 Raleigh Sports, 71 Carlton Critirium, 75 Raleigh Super Course II

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Please do contact me at the yahoo email I posted, I haven't the post count for private massages here.
Brian Mc is offline  
Old 11-10-15, 11:17 AM
  #19  
Trouser press
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 11
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Brian Mc View Post

While I am a noob and there are TONS more knowledgeable folks here, I'd guess yours to be a five speed version of this:

1960's RALEIGH LENTON SPORTS 23" Benelux Made In England All original paint
Except the frame I have has double shifter braze-ons on the down-tube and the cable guides suggest front and rear mechs. Thanks for the link though.
Trouser press is offline  
Old 11-10-15, 12:05 PM
  #20  
Brian Mc
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Central Iowa
Posts: 44

Bikes: 51 Lenton Tourist, 58 Raleigh Sports, 71 Carlton Critirium, 75 Raleigh Super Course II

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Yes, i see that now that you pointed it out, thank you.
Brian Mc is offline  
Old 11-10-15, 12:19 PM
  #21  
cb400bill
Administrator
 
cb400bill's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Kalamazoo MI
Posts: 16,440

Bikes: Fuji SL 2.1 (carbon fiber), Pinarello Stelvio (steel), Cannondale Synapse (aluminum)

Mentioned: 32 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1249 Post(s)
Liked 39 Times in 28 Posts
Moved from C&V to C&V Appraisals.
cb400bill is offline  
Old 11-10-15, 01:48 PM
  #22  
rhm
multimodal commuter
 
rhm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: NJ, NYC, LI
Posts: 19,076

Bikes: 1940s Fothergill, 1959 Allegro Special, 1963? Claud Butler Olympic Sprint, Lambert 'Clubman', 1974 Fuji "the Ace", 1976 Holdsworth 650b conversion rando bike, 1983 Trek 720 tourer, 1984 Counterpoint Opus II, 1993 Basso Gap, 2010 Downtube 8h, and...

Mentioned: 438 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1539 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 12 Times in 11 Posts
There is no way to estimate the value if you don't know what it is, and so far there's no sign any of us knows what it is.

The cable guides can't be original. The lugs are not the ones you'd find on a mid 60's Lenton Sports. If it's really 531 tubing, it's a 1950's model I'm not familiar with.

Those of you who suggest its a "Lenton," please be more specific. I'm not familiar with a model called the Lenton. Lenton Grand Prix, Lenton Sports, Super Lenton, Lenton Tourist, etc, yes. But what's a Lenton?

If it's a 1950's Raleigh, the seat post size is probably 25.4 regardless what the tube set was; so the seat post size will probably not help identify the frame. To know whether it's 531, you may have to weigh it.

If you do weigh it, remove everything. All cups, bolts, etc, and give separate measurements for the frame and fork.
__________________
I put new leather on ruined saddles like Brooks, etc. You can reach me by private message.
rhm is offline  
Old 11-10-15, 03:33 PM
  #23  
Trouser press
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 11
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by rhm View Post
There is no way to estimate the value if you don't know what it is, and so far there's no sign any of us knows what it is.

The cable guides can't be original. The lugs are not the ones you'd find on a mid 60's Lenton Sports. If it's really 531 tubing, it's a 1950's model I'm not familiar with.

Those of you who suggest its a "Lenton," please be more specific. I'm not familiar with a model called the Lenton. Lenton Grand Prix, Lenton Sports, Super Lenton, Lenton Tourist, etc, yes. But what's a Lenton?

If it's a 1950's Raleigh, the seat post size is probably 25.4 regardless what the tube set was; so the seat post size will probably not help identify the frame. To know whether it's 531, you may have to weigh it.

If you do weigh it, remove everything. All cups, bolts, etc, and give separate measurements for the frame and fork.
Thanks for your thoughts. I can weigh it tomorrow, but subjectively it feels fairly light for a steel frame.
Trouser press is offline  
Old 11-10-15, 04:21 PM
  #24  
BigChief 
Senior Member
 
BigChief's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 2,944
Mentioned: 96 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1122 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 12 Times in 10 Posts
I'm following this thread because I really don't know what model this is. Always fun to learn new things. Any of the Lentons I've seen have different lugs than this bike. Never saw one with a brazed on cable guide either. They used a bit of cable casing between two brazed on stops.
BigChief is offline  
Old 11-10-15, 04:31 PM
  #25  
lostarchitect 
incazzare.
 
lostarchitect's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Posts: 6,897

Bikes: See sig

Mentioned: 16 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 40 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 5 Times in 4 Posts
Originally Posted by NormanF View Post
The Club Special thread I posted shows a period correct Raleigh bicycle.

Sold only as far as I know, in Japan.

Are you talking about the one you just posted? That's a modern bike and totally different from this. It doesn't apply at all. The only period it's correct to is the one we're living in now.
__________________
1964 JRJ (Bob Jackson), 1973 Wes Mason, 1974 Raleigh Gran Sport, 1986 Schwinn High Sierra, 2000ish Colian (Colin Laing), 2011 Dick Chafe, 2013 Velo Orange Pass Hunter

Last edited by lostarchitect; 11-10-15 at 05:08 PM.
lostarchitect is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2018 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.