blackmilk

hi all! this is my first post in the forum!

peugeot bike - Album on Imgur

a really nice guy in my building gave away this bike to me before he left the country and i want to know how much it is worth!
i basically don't know anything about bikes and i was wondering:
what model and year it was made,
what its perks are,
what i should get checked out/what needs to be replaced or fixed,
how i should go about measuring/describing/selling it,
or if i should really keep it?

here's what i've got so far:
- apparently the seat was stolen so that's gone.. (how much would it cost to replace it?)
- it has a rusty chain
- it's got stem gear shifters and dynamo lights (i think that's what they're called?)- this is what the guy told me, are they better than normal gear shifters/lights? how are they different?
- it has "peugeot" and "tube special carbolite 103 by peugeot france" on the frame
- the gear shifters have "simplex" written on them
- it says "weinmann vainqueur 610" on the front behind the light
- i think it says "27 x 1 1/4 (H P) made in france, Rigida, chrolux chromage superieur, 17" and "83" etched in a tiny diamond on the wheels.

what does this all mean and does some of this answer my questions?

thank you!!

oddjob2

It is early 1980s, probably a 1982-1984, although the cottered cranks appear to be from an earlier era. You might look at the brochures at bikeboompeugeot.com.

The bike size is about about 54cm, so best for a rider about 5'5"-5'8". If you don't have the tools and time, donate it to a 501(c)3 and get the tax deduction. It would take $75-$100 in parts to get that bike in rideable condition. If you took it to a local bike shop, it would be $175-$200 additional for labor.

As is value $50 tops.

CuttersRidge

If one has access to a bike coop, perhaps one can find a seat post and saddle for a low price. Would a seat post be French measurements? I don't know.

Also, who knows, if that bell is a Peugeot bell, that might be helpful. Rare bells have sold for a fair amount even if it were not a Peugeot branded bell; maybe something else. Maybe it would sell for some average amount like $15 say.

The bike may be inside, what I would do, is lubricate the chain and see if it looks like it will function. Sometimes, that's all one needs to do, For all we know, a saddle, seat post and lubricated chain are all that is needed to make it functional.

I think I've seen that model in good shape in red sell for $80-$100 but in turn, that bike did not have the nice fenders and dynamo.

That's a nice big U-Lock, if one has the key to that, that is something as well.

Really irks me that someone would steal a seat post.

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This blue Peugeot differs from yours mainly in the decals but in some major aspects, it is similar.

Peugeot Cadre Allege 56 cm

Simplex Shifters, Cottered Crank, Chromed Fork.

They both may have the Peugeot branded Simplex rear derailleur (that again, might be worth something to some people). The Craig's list bike here, seems to lack a front derailleur, odd.

It's crazy but here on ebay, not a great measuring stick I acknowledge, a Peugeot branded Simplex Rear Derailleur is selling for $53. So, that at least, gives one an idea. Vintage Simplex Prestige Peugeot Rear Derailleur | eBay

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Lengthy responses, the decals seem more modern than a bike using a cottered crank. It indeed, throws one a bit on a loop.

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If the ol' college try applies to that bike, I'd try to get it rolling if one had resources, say to some seat posts.

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Nice rack and fenders too; there really is a lot to that bike.

CuttersRidge

In the last several years, I got a seat post from the college bike shop for around $16-$20; not cheap but hopefully, there could be a used one somewhere. Likewise, used saddles are a bit the same way.

AlexCyclistRoch

It's a mid-1970's bike, ok quality, but in need of a complete overhaul. As it is, probably worth between $50-100, depending on how much bikes cost where you live.

oddjob2

How could the OP get a Carbolite 103 frame in the mid 1970's when Peugeot didn't introduce the tubing until 1982?

AlexCyclistRoch

Well, that crankset is certainly early-mid 70's. Add the "chicken levers", and it looks like a mid-70's bike.

Chombi1 

Per the graphics and components on the bike, it's either and 82 or 83 model......

Definitely NOT from the 70's or even late 70's.....
It has many things in common with my PH10s and my brother's P8 from that time period. both had turkey levers and my brother's bike had the same 27 1/4 x 1" Rigida steel chromed rims with the patterned side walls and mine had exactly the same stem mounted shifters as this bike...... So Peugeot was definitely still cleaning out their stock of these older types of components into the early 80's.....
As for value, it will never be worth as much as say a touring Trek from the same time, but still quite a nice bike with all the extras on it.
Cleaned up and made road worthy again, one might get up to 200 bucks, maybe even a more (I dare say up to just under bucks to the right buyer if this bike is restored to close to mint condition, in a very hot market with young retro style riders as the optics really look good on this bike, despite it's lower model level status when it comes to C&V touring bikes. Problem is, it will take quite a bit of money and lots of elbow grease to get it to that state, wo this will not be a money maker. Now, if this bike was a similar condition Trek touring bike from the same era, with 531 frame tubing, it will be a different story........
As is, as a project bike sale, it might get 80 -100 bucks max.

blackmilk

thank you all for so much good info!!
so i just went to a bike repair shop to fix up everything, but apparently my frame can only fit 23mm seatposts??
are vintage peugeots all like that? i did some searching online and it seems as though normal road bikes have 27.2mm posts but i can't find any that are like ~23mm online!
would i be able to find them on this forum, or do you guys know of any sites/places in montreal i could get one from?

thank you!!

Narhay

Is there a shim in the seat tube you can remove?

SkyDog75

I think I spy an "83" date stamp on a rim. If so, we're probably looking at an '83 or '84 model.

The Peugeot UO-8 and similar bikes had a skinny seatpost, but that skinny post was fitted with a shim as Narhay suggested. The frame itself was capable of taking a larger post.