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Mondia - More info

Old 05-26-16, 03:46 PM
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Mondia - More info

Hello,

I would like to know more information about this bicycle, like what tubing does the frame have, what year is it and if its components are from the original build or replaced.

Here's some info I already know about it:

derailleur: huret
chainring: dura ace,
brakes: shimano 600 tricolor,
handlebar: sakae
front wheel rim: champion
back wheel: mavic
saddle: comod BBB,
ST: 57,5cm,
weight: 10.3kg

Also I would like to know what's it worth . I broke my Columbus Aelle frame a few days ago and I'm in desperate need of a pair of wheels. My budget is very small atm but I find the asking price affordable. I won't divulge it until after you make an appraisal because the price is set for the local market and may influence you.


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Old 05-26-16, 06:16 PM
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Hello McIver,

Welcome to the forum and thank you for sharing this interesting bicycle.

Have never before seen a Mondia kitted quite like this one.

Tubing set is likely Reynolds 531C eleven tubes.

Chainset is not Durace but rather Sugino Maxy.

Tip: appears someone has pressed into service a 5V rear quick release skewer in a 6V rear hub. There is not full thread engagement on the skewer's nut. This could lead to rear wheel shifting under heavy pedaling loads. If you purchase the bicycle it would be good to replace this first thing.

The cycle's wheels are not only unmatched in terms of brand and appearance but employ different types of tyres. The front wheel looks to take a tubular/"sewup" tyre while the rear wheel takes a wired-on/"clincher" tyre. This is an awkward arrangement in practice as it is necessary to carry the means of dealing with a puncture in both types of tyres. If you purchase the bicycle you might wish to consider changing one of the wheels so that they both take the same sort of rubber...

Will let others more knowledgeable make appraisal(s).

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Old 05-26-16, 06:33 PM
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I have a Mondia Special, paid 65$:
https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vi...a-special.html

You can see a serial number chart here, so you can have an idea of the year it was made:
Mondia serial number chart
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Old 05-26-16, 06:38 PM
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Thanks for the tips and information, juvela.

I've been on the forum for two years now since I bought my first steel frame but I never dared to write anything mainly because I didn't know and still don't know enough about vintage steel.

I'll just come out and tell you the price and you tell me if it's right or not. So the seller is asking for 155 euros (174 USD) transformed from romanian curency.
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Old 05-26-16, 06:57 PM
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I read your thread, marius. I have to say you are a taught negotiator. To get from 350$ to 65$ it's amazing.
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Originally Posted by McIver View Post
Thanks for the tips and information, juvela.

I've been on the forum for two years now since I bought my first steel frame but I never dared to write anything mainly because I didn't know and still don't know enough about vintage steel.

I'll just come out and tell you the price and you tell me if it's right or not. So the seller is asking for 155 euros (174 USD) transformed from romanian curency.
Hello McIver,

The frameset is by far the most valuable thing there. The fittings are somewhat below the quality of the frame. It makes me wonder if when new the bicycle would have come fitted with the Campagnolo Nuovo Record road ensemble. One possibility is that it was purchased by a person who wanted it for the road ensemble and they built it back up into a complete machine with the parts they had to hand. This could explain the odd mix of bits it wears...

From the frame's appearance I would expect we are in the 1960's here. You will be able to check the serial number at the link posted by marius.suiram.
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You should add the shipping, probably you are not Romanian.
Never heard about the other bike he has for sale, the Moore, Swiss made too.
By the way, I asked him the serial number. I was born in Romania, sometimes I check that site, just for fun.
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I am Romanian
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Thought regarding valuation -

If the bare frameset were to be placed on U.S. ebay it would achieve an amount easily in excess of the 174USD. If a U.S. enthusiast were to purchase the bicycle they would likely disassemble it immediately and work to build it up with period correct or at least period plausible first quality fittings.

No ideas whatsoever regarding the market in Timisoara.
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Well the Romanian market it's pretty chaotic. Usually people ask ridiculous amounts of money for lame bikes and sometimes you can come across a bargain like for example a pinarello with columbus slx frame that i saw last year selling for 170$. I missed that opportunity, unfortunately, and it was more painful when I randomly met the guy that bought it while riding through the park and he had no idea what he got.

Anyway, I think I'm gonna buy this bike because during the last few days that I was searching for a replacement for my previous bike and I was determined to get another columbus frame I also read many good reviews about the reynolds 531 tubing. So never owning a reynolds, I think this is the moment to get one.

All I needed was the confirmation that this bike has the 531 tubing since the sticker seems to be missing.

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did you check this one:
Bicicleta semicursa Cluj-Napoca ? OLX.ro
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The frame appears it may be the "Super" model.

Nearly all the Mondia bicycles we see in the U.S. are this model.

Have never before seen one with the lugs and crown we have here.

Most of our examples are Nervex Professional lugs & crown.

This model is noted for its longish rear triangle. It has a relatively long wheelbase for a first quality road machine. The design has its dedicated adherents.

Doubt that any of the fittings she currently wears are original to her. About the only possibility is the brake levers.

On the quick release skewer, if you have a local source for small parts you may be able to purchase a 6V shaft separately so that a complete skewer is unnecessary. Check the opening of the dropouts. When bicycle left the factory it would have been 120mm. The rear hub width is probably 125mm or 126mm. The person who assembled the bike may have just pried the dropouts open to get the wheel in without doing a cold setting.
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Originally Posted by marius.suiram View Post
This looks to be a bottom of the line Favorit from Czechoslovakia to which someone has fitted Cannondale transfers. It was made before Cannondale ever started in business. It has been partially rebuilt with newer fittings.
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More images that I got from the seller. Apparently is a low end Mondia. But I would still like to know it has the 531 tubing and if it worth buying.

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Am unfamiliar with the apparant model name seen on the transfer affixed to the top tube.

The workmanship, paint finish, chrome and Campagnolo 1010 frame ends all point to a quality model.

Would be of interest to know how the small transfer on the seat tube reads.

Headset looks to be original. Nearly all of the other fittings newer than frame but from a wide range of years. Brake calipers are the latest item.

Additional plus: no sign of abuse or rough treatment. Frame in most excellent condition for its age.
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It doesn't look low end to me. Or maybe Mondia's low end would have been high end for lesser manufacturers. If it is good deal, buy it.
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After a few talks with the owner I found out that he measured the seat tube from center to top which means that the frame size is 56. So, as I'm 182 centimeters (5 feet 11 21/32 inches) high I think that the frame is a bit too short for me. I'm not so keen on buying the bike anymore so my quest for finding the perfect frame continues.

Please don't hesitate to question my judgement regarding the size of the frame. I'm still a newbie.

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@mparker326 I got to the conclusion that it is low end from the "Amateur" sticker from the top tube. Maybe the frame is not low end and the sticker was referring only to the groupset which the bike came equipped with.
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After a few talks with the owner I found out that he measured the seat tube from center to top which means that the frame size is 56. So, as I'm 182 centimeters (5 feet 11 21/32 inches) high I think that the frame is a bit to short for me. I'm not so keen on buying the bike anymore so my quest for finding the perfect frame continues.

Please don't hesitate to question my judgement regarding the size of the frame. I'm still a newbie.
Good decision. You would do best with something closer to 60cm. 56cm is my size and I am 5' 9 3/8".
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