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Miyata one thousand gran touring

Old 10-18-16, 02:49 PM
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Miyata one thousand gran touring

In green color, great condition. I'm offering $450. Do you guys it's a fair price?
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Originally Posted by kim43235 View Post
In green color, great condition. I'm offering $450. Do you guys it's a fair price?
As usual it depends. Photos and details are required for any meaningful discussion.
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Old 10-18-16, 03:09 PM
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As usual it depends. Photos and details are required for any meaningful discussion.
Sorry I was in hurry as I'm making a deal as of now. I just attached a photo.
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Old 10-18-16, 03:17 PM
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Where are you located? If you're in a hot bike market, it could be a good price. On the other hand, I picked up an '84 Miyata 1000 in practically like-new condition for $200 in rural upstate NY and it sat on Craigslist for a few weeks before I bought it.
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It may not sell right away but I think that bike is worth at least $450. Vintage Japanese steel, solid components and a whole lot of style.

Original front and rear racks add value.

Fenders (not sure if they're original, but even if they're not) add value.

Brooks? saddle adds value even if it is worked in.

If it's mostly original I'd value it at $500 and would expect $350-$400 on CL, but again it may take some time.

That being said, I just bought my '82 Miyata 1000 for $200 about 2-3 weeks ago in Denver. Seller was asking $400 but after it sat on the market for 3 weeks he came all the way down to my $200 offer. I was very excited. I've taken it out on a few 20 milers and it's a great riding bike.
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Old 10-19-16, 06:47 AM
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Thanks for the replies. I actually bought it yesterday and brought home and turned out that it's not my size. I sat on it before I bought it but did not actually ride it. I think it's 50cm where I ride 56cm. I was just very excited but now I may need to wait until my wife is ready to ride with or just sell.
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Looks like a 52 cm from here. 58 is too big for me, so I go with almost anything smaller (up to a point, of course) and have a ton of fun on a 50 cm fixed gear.
Many cyclists choose to ride a frame slightly on the small side, especially if you have a shortish upper body - you need a shorter top tube.
You have a lot of freedom this way to pick your position using different post height/setback and stem height/extension length.
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Originally Posted by exxongraftek View Post
Looks like a 52 cm from here. 58 is too big for me, so I go with almost anything smaller (up to a point, of course) and have a ton of fun on a 50 cm fixed gear.
Many cyclists choose to ride a frame slightly on the small side, especially if you have a shortish upper body - you need a shorter top tube.
You have a lot of freedom this way to pick your position using different post height/setback and stem height/extension length.
I'm new to bike and would be interested in getting it fit for me. I'm sure it's 50cm or less. Seat tube length is little over 19" so it is 50cm. Where do I buy longer stem or extension? Ebay? What do they call? Looks like this type of stem is quill stem, correct?
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Originally Posted by kim43235 View Post
I'm new to bike and would be interested in getting it fit for me. I'm sure it's 50cm or less. Seat tube length is little over 19" so it is 50cm. Where do I buy longer stem or extension? Ebay? What do they call? Looks like this type of stem is quill stem, correct?
A Nitto Technomic would look good and raise up the bars. EBay has them. Look for clamp size 25.4.
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Originally Posted by kim43235 View Post
I'm new to bike and would be interested in getting it fit for me. I'm sure it's 50cm or less. Seat tube length is little over 19" so it is 50cm. Where do I buy longer stem or extension? Ebay? What do they call? Looks like this type of stem is quill stem, correct?
Ballpark bike fitting: Distance from pedal tread to top of seat should equal 103-108% of your real nekkid floor-to-ouch inseam length (this is NOT your pant leg inseam length in most cases). This depends on your foot size and comfort.
Next, your knee should be lined up (or close) 90 to the pedal tread (exactly above it). If not, move the seat back or forward on it's rails until you get there.
Then, put your elbow on the front of the nose of the seat and reach toward the center of the handlebars. Depending again on your comfort, your fingertips should be at the center of the handlebars or just behind them.
Last, raise or lower your new stem to fit - start with it about the same height as the nose of your seat (why you need a Technomic, the quill is long).
Put some miles in and see how you feel. If anything hurts, it may be over- or under-extended.

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A Nitto Technomic would look good and raise up the bars. EBay has them. Look for clamp size 25.4.
You do want a quill stem, handlebar clamp size 25.4 most likely. Nitto Technomics are nice stems for these bikes.

Best of luck - let us know how it goes!
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We've talked about size, seat tube length, and stem height so far, but haven't talked much about top tube & stem length, which is at least as important.

I picked up a 1984 Miyata 1000 a few months ago. It's a 50 cm frame, which I would've thought to be too small since I usually ride bikes in the 53-55 cm range, but the Miyata's top tube is 53.5 cm. That's pretty long for a 50 cm frame and in my comfort range. I raised the seatpost, installed a taller stem with a 100 mm reach (same as my other bikes with 54-ish top tubes), and I'm gonna give it a shot. If you're taller than 5'10" or so, though... Yeah, there's a good chance it'll be too small.

As mentioned above, Nitto Technomic stems are a popular choice when you need something taller and longer. I personally found the Technomic to be *too* tall, though. The fork steerer on a 50 cm bike isn't very long, so you can't insert a stem very deep and a Technomic kinda looks like a flagpole sticking up from the front of the bike. The Nitto Technomic Deluxe, which is 35 mm shorter than the regular Technomic, seems to be the ideal height to get my 50 cm Miyata 1000 to fit my almost-5'10" body, with some adjustment room to spare. The Soma Sutro stem is similar in height to the Technomic Deluxe, and that's what I went with because it's cheaper. But the Sutro maxes out at 100 mm reach, so the Technomic Deluxe might be your better option. Those are available in 110 and 120 mm reaches.

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Wow.. lot of good info here. Thanks for the replies.

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We've talked about size, seat tube length, and stem height so far, but haven't talked much about top tube & stem length, which is at least as important.

I picked up a 1984 Miyata 1000 a few months ago. It's a 50 cm frame, which I would've thought to be too small since I usually ride bikes in the 53-55 cm range, but the Miyata's top tube is 53.5 cm. That's pretty long for a 50 cm frame and in my comfort range. I raised the seatpost, installed a taller stem with a 100 mm reach (same as my other bikes with 54-ish top tubes), and I'm gonna give it a shot. If you're taller than 5'10" or so, though... Yeah, there's a good chance it'll be too small.

As mentioned above, Nitto Technomic stems are a popular choice when you need something taller and longer. I personally found the Technomic to be *too* tall, though. The fork steerer on a 50 cm bike isn't very long, so you can't insert a stem very deep and a Technomic kinda looks like a flagpole sticking up from the front of the bike. The Nitto Technomic Deluxe, which is 35 mm shorter than the regular Technomic, seems to be the ideal height to get my 50 cm Miyata 1000 to fit my almost-5'10" body, with some adjustment room to spare. The Soma Sutro stem is similar in height to the Technomic Deluxe, and that's what I went with because it's cheaper. But the Sutro maxes out at 100 mm reach, so the Technomic Deluxe might be your better option. Those are available in 110 and 120 mm reaches.
Looks like I'm in the same boat as you are. I'm 5' 10" and I think my bike is 50cm. I'm going to have to measure again to make sure. So did you make 50cm bike to fit for you? Please share some photos of your bike if you do not mind. That would help me. Also if you can share where you bought your stem from, that would help me a lot.

Nitto Technomic stems are kind of expensive. Can I just install Quill stem extenders? They cost about $15 which is cheaper than Nitto stem. Is it just look of extender makes it less popular than nitto stem?
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Originally Posted by kim43235 View Post
Wow.. lot of good info here. Thanks for the replies.



Looks like I'm in the same boat as you are. I'm 5' 10" and I think my bike is 50cm. I'm going to have to measure again to make sure. So did you make 50cm bike to fit for you? Please share some photos of your bike if you do not mind. That would help me. Also if you can share where you bought your stem from, that would help me a lot.

Nitto Technomic stems are kind of expensive. Can I just install Quill stem extenders? They cost about $15 which is cheaper than Nitto stem. Is it just look of extender makes it less popular than nitto stem?
If you want to go with a Nitto but not a Technomic the Young is pretty nice. However there will not be the rise you may have with a Technomic. I don't know anything about stem extenders but Sakae is another quill stem. They will likely be less expensive than Nitto.
Seems at 5' 10" a 50 cm bike may be hard to fit. Good luck.
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So did you make 50cm bike to fit for you? Please share some photos of your bike if you do not mind. That would help me. Also if you can share where you bought your stem from, that would help me a lot.
Well, I'm trying to see if I can make it fit, but haven't taken the bike out for much of a ride to see if I've been successful. I think I'll be able to get it dialed in based on the top tube length, but I tend to like my bikes a little on the small side compared to some of the guys around here.

I'll try to remember to take some pics, but I've hardly been home lately.

As for where I bought my stem, I picked up a Soma Sutro from yojimbo's_garage on eBay. He's currently got 'em listed for $36. (If you don't see the particular size you want, just contact him via one of the auction listings.)
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48-52cm frames should have stems shorter then 100mm. If your stem is 100mm or longer the frames too small

54-58cm frames should have stem in the 100-110mm range. If your stems shorter the frames too big, if its longer the frames too small

60cm frames and bigger should have stems longer than 110mm. If your stems shorter than 120mm the frames too big.

*Exceptions to jim2527's ballpark rules exist.
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