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Old 11-08-16, 12:18 PM
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91 Waterford Paramount pricing question

I came across a true Waterford(Serial# confirmed) built OS tube bike with full Dura ace components for sale locally. As it's in somewhat "average" shape(paint nicks....) what would be a good price to offer on this bike? Thanks in advance for any help!

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Old 11-08-16, 12:45 PM
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Impossible to know without more info. At least pictures. Generally around here without pictures it doesn't exist.Roger
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Old 11-08-16, 06:36 PM
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That looks like a great bike. Not much out there on the Waterford PDG OS bikes but what little I found on the Waterford site makes it sound awesome. The Asian PDG bikes are readily available and never seem to bring over $300. I've seen the 80's Waterfords with this level of componentry bring $600-$900. I just gave $400 for a very clean 1986 Waterford Paramount frameset and was happy to get it.

All this added up, my gut tells me this one is in the $600 range. Maybe more since a clean Dura Ace 7400 can run $400 on its own. Just my semi-educated guess.
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Old 11-08-16, 10:13 PM
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Nice --- if it fits and you are buying it for yourself, I wouldn't sweat paying a grand for it --

If your not passionate about the thing - maybe $750 --
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odd pedal choice for such a nice bike.
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Thanks for your input concerning pricing. I'll be looking at it tomorrow and will then make an offer on it.
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Old 11-09-16, 04:32 AM
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Maybe just an optical illusion, but the top tube looks slightly bent to me.

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Old 11-09-16, 07:36 AM
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You'll have Schwinn experts weighing in, but did you read this?

PDG Series Bikes ? 1989-94
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Originally Posted by oddjob2 View Post
You'll have Schwinn experts weighing in, but did you read this?

PDG Series Bikes ? 1989-94
OJ2's link is the first place I looked but didn't see this OS frame in the table. You'll fine a little more clarity in this link, although still sufficiently murky enough to create an intriguing air of mystery around this Paramount.

Paramounts in Waterford 1980-1994
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I'm certainly not a Schwinn expert but I think there were two versions of the Paramount during that time. One was the "series" PDG version produced overseas. That's what is in the table in the link posted above. The other is the PDF hand built in Waterford and that's what this is I believe. Hopefully someone more knowledgable jumps in to confirm or correct me.
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I was able to determine from the serial number from pictures sent on the BB that this is indeed a true Waterford made frame. However, I can't view the bike until Saturday and I can't even ride the bike due to a recent surgery so I'll just have to do a visual inspection of it at that time. Some 30 years ago I had a Paramount that I had set up to race(cat 4) and I just really regret selling it!


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Having perused the photos of the ad, the asking price is not unreasonable. Good luck!

I bought a 1989 for less in PB Fl, but then again certain regular posters here are known for good or better fishing skills.
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Is that really a 58 cm frame? I looks more like a 56 from where I sit.
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Originally Posted by Kevindale View Post
Is that really a 58 cm frame? I looks more like a 56 from where I sit.
Correct, SN confirms the size.
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Nice looking bike and I bet it rides great. My Waterford is the best riding bike I've ever owned.
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Old 11-12-16, 06:03 AM
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$400-600 as others have noted. I wouldn't go more than that.....
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