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Turn of Century Patee

Old 11-22-16, 03:22 PM
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Turn of Century Patee

Obviously a lot of rust. Are those the right wheels? Given all that any assessment of value?
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Old 11-22-16, 03:47 PM
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Someone may find the saddle structure of value...aside from that my initial guesstimate is $0
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Old 11-23-16, 08:23 AM
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Interesting, but so, so much rust.
Even at a zero cost basis, it would be a total labor of love to do anything with it.
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I doubt the wheels are original, though they may have been rebuilt using OEM hubs. The rims look later, as they appear to be steel, plated and have a brake sidewall, all of which would be atypical for the era. Also, the rims have far less corrosion than the rest of the bicycle. If the rims are chrome plated, that's a sure sign of replacement, as commercial chrome plating first appeared in the very late 1920s. Prior to that nickel plate was the most common form of bright plate in the industry.

As for value. it's surprising what some neglected TOC bicycles fetch. Sure, it's an labour of love but I imagine there is something willing to buy it, though any non-OEM parts and what appears to be an incomplete head badge, obviously devalue it. I suggest you inquire at The Classic and Antique Bicycle Exchange , where the membership is has a higher interest in TOC bicycles.
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I posted over on thecabe as well. Those wheels are definitely newer. I think based on some catalog pics I've seen the fork ends are actually supposed to be chrome, or at least very shiny. It's not mine but someone looking to move it. I think it's value lies as the base for a long and slow restoration, it's not going to be a flip bike or anything to profit from. But how many Patee's are even left?
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I would agree that even in this rough of shape as a TOC bike it does have some value to the right buyer as either a display bike pretty much as is or possible as a parts bike. I would think it would fall in the $200-300 price range, the springer saddle frame in what appears to be good shape is worth about $75.
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Old 11-23-16, 10:52 AM
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I agree with zuhahn, theres value in several parts. Especially if someone is looking for that headbadge. Most if not all collectors of these type bikes originality is very important, but this would be a good candidate for a long and expensive restoration. I would take on this task without a doubt. Its hard to tell from the pics, but the wheels could be original. Its hard to pinpoint the exact year without seeing the bike in person, but bikes of this type came with what was called metal clad wheels. Wood rims with a steel cover. Heres a couple original bikes of mine that have metal clad rims.





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What size rims were used back then?
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If the rims are all metal, they are not original. If you can pull the tire off and there is wood on the inside then they are probably original. 26" rims weren't introduced until around 1935, but even then ballon tire bikes were still pretty rare. They made wood rims up until the 40's then 26" metal wheels took over.
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That there is the Chrysler of bicycles...
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