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Old 11-23-16, 07:38 PM
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Help identifying missing head plate

I found this old frame with a number of french parts on it. Other forum members have been great in helping id it, but the head plate remains a mystery. 3 holes in the pattern, 2 on top and one one the bottom. Left rear dropout has A2421 stamped on it ( campy brev.) Looks like the original paint was green? Attached photos show what I have found so far. Any help would be appreciated.

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Old 11-23-16, 09:24 PM
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Follis had a nameplate with this pattern of fasteners. Not asserting an identity.

For readers who may have missed it here is the earlier discussion on this frameset:

https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vi...campy-dos.html



Alas, it is the wrong shape for the ghost image of the plate on the frame's head tube.

The ghost image of a transfer on the frame's seat tube is a valuable clue. A knowledgeable reader may recognise it.

Member @Filochard may be of help here...

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The ghost image on the headtube is an outline that I made, it was not there originally. I did get the fork out, no maker label inside or ser. number on the fork. The Follis pattern seems to match.
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If you feel the Follis a plausible identification one confirmation investigation you could make would be to look at some sixties era Follis cycles online to see if you can find any with a similar serial format and placement.

Follis serials are all over the map. Differing formats and placements. They also produced a great many machines with no serial.

Another check would be to measure distances between fastener holes.

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Just measured my Follis headbadge (paper following the contours of the tubing) rivet head to rivet head - across the top 38mm and along one of the sides 37.5mm. See how that matches your rivet holes. Forgot to say looks like it is most likely a 472 or a 572

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Originally Posted by Pogliaghi View Post
Just measured my Follis headbadge (paper following the contours of the tubing) rivet head to rivet head - across the top 38mm and along one of the sides 37.5mm. See how that matches your rivet holes. Forgot to say looks like it is most likely a 472 or a 572
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We have an identification right down to the model number.

Cycle in illustration cannot be earlier than 1971 because of 3TTT Record stem/bar set.

Hilary Stone gives a launch date of 1970 for its Stronglight 99 chainset; had previously thought this date a bit later. Since poster's bike came with a NERVAR Star chainset it is likely to be somewhat earlier.

Interesting to note that it displays a front centrepull hanger even though equipped with sidepull brakes. The Stronglight V-4 headset uses a serrated lock washer so it is not one of the ones which needs a serrated centrepull hanger.

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