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Marinoni 1975 (133th build)

Old 11-25-16, 05:23 PM
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Marinoni 1975 (133th build)

Hi all,

I'm new here and would like to have an idea of the value of a Marinoni I bought few years ago. It's a Marinoni special 1975 and it was it's 133th frame. It's mainly build with Nuevo Record, except for the brake levers and the brakes. It was repainted in the '90.

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Old 11-25-16, 05:35 PM
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Marinoni special 1975

Hi all,

Sorry for the repost (posted in the wrong forum). I would like to have an idea of the value of a Marinoni I bought few years ago. It's a Marinoni special 1975 and it was it's 133th frame. It's mainly build with Nuevo Record, except for the brake levers and the brakes. It was repainted in the '90.
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Old 11-25-16, 06:55 PM
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Neat bike. You'll have better luck getting an appraisal if you post in the C&V appraisals thread.
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Old 11-25-16, 08:56 PM
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^ and I'm sure it will get moved. Nonetheless, in the best Canadian markets for Marinoni's (Toronto+Southern Ontario+Quebec), that bike would fetch you $1200 - $1800 depending on condition. Heck, even here in Halifax a complete Marinoni will go for $1500, so my estimates are conservative.

What you ought to do is ride it and cherish it. If it doesn't fit you, maybe seek to trade for something of similar quality that does.
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I don't know the Canadian market, but from the Marinoni sales I've seen...that's extraordinarily optomistic. Everyone knows Marinoni is an excellent builder, but there are a lot of good builders, and he has less panache than some. Maybe Canada views this differently, but to me he's one of many good builders, and I don't see a huge brand premium.

As a repaint, to me this looks like a $700-$800 bike in eBay max.
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Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake View Post
I don't know the Canadian market, but from the Marinoni sales I've seen...that's extraordinarily optomistic. Everyone knows Marinoni is an excellent builder, but there are a lot of good builders, and he has less panache than some. Maybe Canada views this differently, but to me he's one of many good builders, and I don't see a huge brand premium.

As a repaint, to me this looks like a $700-$800 bike in eBay max.
I largely agree with that. I follow the used Marinoni market quite closely, and I'd be surprised to see it go for over $800 (but if you can manage to get more than that for it, that's awesome!). If you're selling locally in Montreal or Toronto you might have better luck getting a bit more for it.

Good luck!

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Old 11-26-16, 09:35 AM
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I'd agree. In Canada it's not hard to find Marinoni's with middle of the road components for under $500. The nice paint and good components on your bike will help but that bike would sit for a while at $800, specially at this time of the year.
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Old 11-26-16, 12:39 PM
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If the repaint was done by Marinoni, I'd have no problem paying $1000 for a bike like that in my size.
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For clarity sake, might be helpful to make sure we're all using the same dollar.
That is a good builder, though not one of the most famous. Also looks fairly simple without the fleur-de-lis or maple leaf pantos. If it were me, I'd be happy with $800 USD but could get a grand. It's just so hard to get what these old frames should be worth.
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Originally Posted by arimajol View Post
For clarity sake, might be helpful to make sure we're all using the same dollar.
That is a good builder, though not one of the most famous. Also looks fairly simple without the fleur-de-lis or maple leaf pantos. If it were me, I'd be happy with $800 USD but could get a grand. It's just so hard to get what these old frames should be worth.
Yeah, your point about the dollar conversion is a good one, and I'm glad you brought it up because that might have gotten lost in the conversation. I was talking CAD in my posts.

There might be someone out there who is willing to pay a lot for an early Marinoni in that size, so I don't want to discourage the OP for trying to seek some decent cash for the bike, but yeah, without anything special (like fleur-de-lis pantos as arimajol mentions) it might be hard to get anyone aside from a hardcore Marinoni aficionado to pay top dollar for the bike. Maybe my own prejudices are coming into play here, because i like 1990-1999 Marinonis, so take what I say with a grain of salt.
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Originally Posted by arimajol View Post
For clarity sake, might be helpful to make sure we're all using the same dollar.
That is a good builder, though not one of the most famous. Also looks fairly simple without the fleur-de-lis or maple leaf pantos. If it were me, I'd be happy with $800 USD but could get a grand. It's just so hard to get what these old frames should be worth.
An excellent point...I didn't realize the exchange rate was as favorable to the USD as it is. The last time I was in Canada, it was basically even. We might be saying nearly the same thing.

Rate is currently .74.
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Originally Posted by Bone Machine View Post
If the repaint was done by Marinoni, I'd have no problem paying $1000 for a bike like that in my size.
Was the repaint done by Marinoni?
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That's a super nice bike I would $700-800 in major US city or on ebay and likely 1200-1300 CAD to the right buyer in a bigger Canadian market. It seems while every bit as nice as the top Italian bikes the Marinoni's don't get the seem kind of prices interest outside of parts of Canada.
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that bike would fetch you $1200 - $1800 depending on condition
Not likely, in my opinion.
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Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake View Post
I don't know the Canadian market, but from the Marinoni sales I've seen...that's extraordinarily optomistic. Everyone knows Marinoni is an excellent builder, but there are a lot of good builders, and he has less panache than some. Maybe Canada views this differently, but to me he's one of many good builders, and I don't see a huge brand premium.

As a repaint, to me this looks like a $700-$800 bike in eBay max.
It maybe a Patriotic thing also. Canadians can be very Patriotic as can Americans. We just hide it better.

Have you ever ridden a high end "Noni"? American's seem to have a Love affair with Schwinn Paramount's. Which as a Canadian I have never understood, again this maybe just a patriotic thing.
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It maybe a Patriotic thing also. Canadians can be very Patriotic as can Americans. We just hide it better.

Have you ever ridden a high end "Noni"? American's seem to have a Love affair with Schwinn Paramount's. Which as a Canadian I have never understood, again this maybe just a patriotic thing.
Patriotism may play a role, but I think it's more about nostalgia; most of us lust after what we most wanted in our teens and couldn't afford...for many Americans of a certain age, that's a paramount. In Canada it's probably Marinoni.

I think sharing a border with a cultural/economic empire probably engenders an inwards pride in response. Sort of like how I feel about NYC.

He's also by all reports a darn good builder. I was in his shop when we visited Montreal actually...really nice folks. All CF.
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Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake View Post
Patriotism may play a role, but I think it's more about nostalgia; most of us lust after what we most wanted in our teens and couldn't afford...for many Americans of a certain age, that's a paramount. In Canada it's probably Marinoni.

I think sharing a border with a cultural/economic empire probably engenders an inwards pride in response. Sort of like how I feel about NYC.

He's also by all reports a darn good builder. I was in his shop when we visited Montreal actually...really nice folks. All CF.
Any excuse to visit Montreal works for me.
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God I love it there. The food is incredible...people watching at the mountain...the riding and the bike paths. So many parks. We found a few really cool bike shops as well.

I was looking at the job market and visa rules for foreigners after visiting...it disavowed me of that dream
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Thanks all for the info. It was repainted by Marinoni. I decided to keep it.
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Marinoni interest may increase

The recently released movie: Marinoni: the Fire in the Frame

may bring the work of this master frame builder to the attention of a wider audience.

Glad you are keeping the bike. The builder's personal story is inspirational.
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