85 Univega Viva Touring
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85 Univega Viva Touring
I have been back and forth about what to do with this bike, as it's too small for me. I have a couple of projects in (seemingly perpetual) progress, and I think my time and sanity might be better served by letting this one go. I listed it a few months ago at a deliberately "optimistic" price, because I was not sure I wanted to sell -- predictably, nothing happened, and I was kind of relieved that I did not have to make a decision at that point.
This is an 85 (I believe -- serial number starts with an "M") Viva Touring measuring 54cm ctc seat tube with
In the SF Bay Area, what would you consider a fair price for this as a full bike?
Alternatively, I am leaning toward stripping it and selling the frame, so I am curious what your opinions would be for a frame-only sale. I might use the components on something else.
Thanks in advance for your thoughts...




This is an 85 (I believe -- serial number starts with an "M") Viva Touring measuring 54cm ctc seat tube with
- Cromoly double butted main tubes, hi-ten stays, mangalight fork
- Suntour Blue Line GT group
- Suntour 6 speed freewheel
- Sakae CX triple crank with 52-42-36
- SR stem and bars
- Sansin hubs laced to 27 x 1 1/4 Araya rims, Bontrager tires in new-ish condition
- Dia Compe 960 cantilever brakes
It was garage kept with no rust, and it appears that the original owner did not use it much. I overhauled the bottom bracket, headset, and hubs with fresh Phil Wood grease, and I cleaned and lubed the freewheel with Phil tenacious oil. I've ridden it less than 20 miles since doing the overhaul.In the SF Bay Area, what would you consider a fair price for this as a full bike?
Alternatively, I am leaning toward stripping it and selling the frame, so I am curious what your opinions would be for a frame-only sale. I might use the components on something else.
Thanks in advance for your thoughts...





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Nice bike and it seems a real shame to strip it of parts given how strong a market SF is for vintage bikes. I could sell this bike in Des Moines IA for right around $250-$300. This is not a good market for vintage bikes. This bike should be worth considerably more would be my guess in SF. In a good market, I'd peg its value right around $400 plus.
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Upper level Japanese bikes usually bottom out around $350 in most markets. But, that doesn't mean you can't ask for a lot more.
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I know that the Viva series was sort of mid-pack in the Univega pecking order -- does that translate to lower value this many years on, or would this be considered an "upper level" bike, given the touring geometry, canti brakes, wide clearances, and eyelets? I'm not a tourer in the least, so I'm not sure what is most valuable to someone seeking out a bike like this. I imagine the heavier frame deducts some points?
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Nice enough bike but I don't see the value others have pegged it at. Low to mid level 80s Japanese bike feels like $150-$200 to me. Some fresh bar tape will help its appeal on the high side.
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I would put this one at $250-300 or so even though mid level. It has canti brakes a nice triple crank and great paint plus it's super clean with good tires. New cables, nice bar tape, toe lips on the pedals and better looking saddle I could see this bike selling for $350-400 in SF.
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