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Any support for my "Mondia Special" quote?

Old 12-10-16, 03:24 PM
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Any support for my "Mondia Special" quote?

Hello,
I don't know how much could be the price for selling a Mondia Special I own...
I dont know so much about the bike because it's a gift but you can see the pictures and, for sure, you'll know much more than me about it.
The bike has to be reconditioned since it hasn't been used for years (tyres are "dry", etc).

Thanks in advance!
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Old 12-10-16, 04:28 PM
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This was my Mondia Special from around '72.
Was built with Shimano 600. Sold it for 500$ one month ago.
Depends of the market and to find he right person to buy your bike.
Where are you from? I would like to buy another one.
Is the serial number available? (on the top of the seat tubing)
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Old 12-10-16, 05:26 PM
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Yours is better than Marius's by a good bit. The campy bits are the driver there. But yours needs cleaning to get into the 500-600 range
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It's a really nice bike with what looks to most of a NR groupo but in rough shape with some odd none original parts like the Suntour GPX shifter's. As presented needing a couple hundred dollars worth of work and components I would say $350-400. As said fixed up ready to ride with the incorrect components changed about $600 maybe bit more depending on how nicely the paint and chrome cleanup.
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Really needs a cleaning to assess the condition.
And depends on ones needs, the cranks if they are in good shape to a keen observer are worth more than normal, Campagnolo changed the crank arm shape slightly, these have a less aggressive chamfer running around the perimeter, uncommon. Right for bikes in that '68-'71 era bracket.
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Old 12-10-16, 09:22 PM
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I think it is late 70's or early 80's, because of the font used for "Mondia", but the s.n. and the components should show us closer the year.
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Show us the serial number off the seat tube and we can give you an estimate on the year by comparing it to an online database. Nice reconditioned ones pop up at $500 tops, as others have said. And those don't have the mismatched parts.
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Thank you

As first...thank you all!
You all are being so kind since I could never have your knowledge about bikes, especially such old ones.
What you wrote is then very very helpful for me.
As requested, I'm posting what I think is the serial number and I've caught the suggestion to clean the bike to see, at least, the real conditions below the dirty.
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From my reading of this site it appears to be a 1969 (or thereabouts) frame. There should be date codes on some of the components. Look on the inside surfaces of the cranks for some markings, as well as on the end of the rear derailleur. If you take off the rear wheel and take off the lock nuts from the axle, there should also be a year marking there. It's typical for original components to be off by a year or two from when the frame was made. And if those components were replaced later, then those additional dates don't mean much.

If you want to sell it, I think your best bet is to gently clean it, do a light polish of some of the aluminum and chrome, and sell it as is. It's a lot of work to properly recondition a bike like this, and will take a lot of time and research. Then there's the trouble and expense of finding the replacement parts. You won't get top dollar, but if this is your first bike restoration you'll never get value out of it. That kind of work is a labor of love.

Edit: Did some checking. Apparently the Nuovo Record cranks didn't have date codes till 1973, which would be a single digit in a diamond (e.g., a '3' for 1973). The rear derailleur may have a 2 digit number: 'PAT. 70' for 1970.

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Here's a Mondia that's reportedly a 1969 with a slightly lower serial number and very similar paint scheme and decal style.
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Old 12-12-16, 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Kevindale View Post
Here's a Mondia that's reportedly a 1969 with a slightly lower serial number and very similar paint scheme and decal style.
yes, nice !!!
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Further pictures

Hello!
Thanking once again all of you,
I'm adding some pictures more, after I tried to clean some small parts of the Mondia in order to understand its real conditions.
Please, find them in attachment...
Unfortunately, I couldn't find any additional codes/number on any other part.

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Once it's cleaned up, you should take a good resolution photo of the entire bike, from the 'drive side', in good light (roughly like the one I posted with the orange background or the one Marius posted). But get it as sharp as possible. Here's an example of the markings and date codes from a Nuovo Record crank:



And here is an example of the NR rear derailleur date code:



Where are you located (sorry if I missed that)? That will allow people to suggest places to offer the bike for sale. Also, some of your photos of individual components tend to be a little too close up, and have poor lighting and/or busy backgrounds.
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Thanks a lot once again!
The pictures you all are showing are awesome (and you're right, mine are terribile, I took them into a garage)...
I'm having trouble finding time to clean up properly the whole bike (it takes a long time since it took ten minutes just to clean up the very small parts I took pictures of)...
I fear I'll try to sell the bicycle in this condition, anyway I'll try to search for the derailleur code...

I'm based in Italy (Rome).

Thanks a lot once again!
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not sure of the prices in italy for mondia...french bicycles.
in the los angeles region these stay on craigslist for quite awhile at 400-500....if you are going to leave it to the buyer to clean (perhaps a good idea if you do not know how to clean and polish.... very easy to over clean modias paint) and many CV's like to do the restorations themselves.
here in this condition 200-300
just my opinion, ben






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Wouldn't take much effort to get that bike in top notch condition. The Campagnolo components were the best you could buy when that bike was new, and will probably last another 40 years with minimal maintenance. I wouldn't hestitate to buy that bike at $500. Beautiful.
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As for where to sell it, either eBay or if you have the equivalent of Craigslist. I'm sure every country has their own best way to sell, and you want to use the internet to reach the most people.

After that, you have to decide how much your time is worth. If you sell it as is, you will get substantially less. If you clean it up fairly well, and present it well with appropriate information and good pictures, you'll probably get much more.

It will be worth your while to do a few things before you list it. First, give it a good but gentle cleaning. Take some old cotton rags or strong paper towels and wipe off as much grease as you can from the chain, derailleurs, chain rings, cogs, etc. Then get a gentle degreaser (we have some citrus based stuff here) and use soft brushes and more rags to clean the parts some more, then rinse with clear water and dry. Then gently wash the frame and wheels/tires. Be gentle around the decals on the frame. If you get ambitious, get some automotive metal polish and do a light polish the chrome, and if it's the right kind of polish, you can use it on the stem and handlebars and other aluminum parts. You just need to do this lightly, you're not trying to make it look new, just get the worst of the corrosion reduced.

Cut that twine off the front axle. The saddle looks like suede, so don't get it wet, and maybe use a soft brush on it if it's dirty or dusty. I'd remove/replace the old bar tape (be careful around the hoods of the brake handles, they're probably very dry, so try not to wreck them). I'd also remove the rack, which you can include in the sale, but I think it detracts from the look of the bike. I wouldn't worry about new tires or cables, but see if the old tires hold air. Then take some good photos. And you want good photos of everything. For example, what kind of saddle and seatpost is that? What kind of pedals?

Also, do some measuring, so you can report the size of the seat tube and top tube. Include the information you've found here about the components, but more importantly, your photos should show exactly what they are, so knowledgeable buyers can figure it out for themselves. Also, if you have the appropriate tools, you can carefully loosen the stem and the seat post, and confirm that they are not seized in the frame. If they are, the value is much reduced. Good luck.
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If you take the lock nuts off the hubs, you will see a date code on the face of the cones, locknuts or both.
The derailleur may be too early for a patent date, so it could be 1967-68-69 photos of the lower spring case can help determine the limit screw region changed pretty quickly until 1970.
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