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ID this Colnago

Old 12-28-16, 06:19 PM
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ID this Colnago

Can anyone tell me the year and model of this Colnago. Seller doesn't list anything about the groupset. says it's an 89-90 model year but I know nothing about vintage bikes.
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Old 12-28-16, 07:01 PM
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Seems to have a Colnago pantographed stem.
For a long time, Colnagos were mostly distributed as frame sets.
The photos are too overall and of soft focus, plus the drivetrain side is not imaged.
All that written, might be a Colnago, My guess is that it has been repainted.
Looks like it has a set of water bottle bosses on seat tube, maybe a chromed chain stay…
Seller really did not give you much to go on.
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Old 12-28-16, 09:35 PM
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I know his ad was vague. I'm trying to get more info. A repaint would surprise me considering he says it's only been ridden a handful of times. I'm going to try to get more details
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Old 12-28-16, 09:53 PM
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"By him"
Current owners sometimes are in the dark. The camera angles suggest as much or they are strategic. All types out there.
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Old 12-28-16, 09:59 PM
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A Super or Superissimo model maybe? --- that tubing decal could speak volumes if it wasn't a generic Columbus decal
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Old 12-28-16, 11:12 PM
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According to the seller the decal reads as follows:



Columbus tubi riforzati garantiti composizioni SL
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Old 12-29-16, 07:25 AM
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I see what looks like a Phil rear hub but I doubt the front is.
Looks like Ofmega pedals. Concor seat is nice if they fit your anatomy.
Initial indication (to me) = parts bin build other than the stem.
I think it's earlier than 89-90 based on the top tube cable routing.
High possibility of a repaint - I think tubing decal is a newer version.

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Old 12-29-16, 12:10 PM
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This has been on COLNAGO Itialian Hand Made for a year or two. Looks to be a super to me as well, doubt a respray. If what he claims is true maybe the wheels were stolen and replaced. He clearly does not know what he has as it is listed as 33" size. $1800 is a lot but with that seat angle I am sure it has not seen many miles.
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Old 12-29-16, 01:57 PM
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Now it's on Ebay and listed as being in Scottsdale. He's asking $1800 on Ebay as well. what do you think it's worth assuming it is what he says it is.
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Old 12-29-16, 02:11 PM
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For the terrible pictures, I'd deduct a $800. Unable to see or verify any ding or corrosion area's. Seat post is slammed, extreme saddle tilt, cage less road pedals I don't think this is a serious road cyclist set-up. Zoomed in but unable to read the rim decal. Wheel's somehow don't seem original or period to the frame.

3ttt stem / panto Colnago and bar are nice. Possibly has panto downtube levers. Rare saddle but could be scuffed.... not even wiped off or cleaned for the photo's. Seller doesn't present any care.

Two top tube cable guides and the fork are Colnago telltales. Need to see more and detailed clear focus pics. There's an incredible amount of fakes and just as many rust trash stuff out there. One can buy a legit Colnago fork and install on another make frame. Can carve out the bottom bracket, decal it. Have to see clear close-ups of EVERYTHING.

Hopefully with this example one can get some cooperation with this seller. If legit, maybe come together with a fair deal. Right now as presented, its a crapshoot. Gamble at $1,000. Wouldn't concern if missed, patience pays and there's others out there.

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Old 12-29-16, 06:21 PM
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Gamble at $1,000. Wouldn't concern if missed, patience pays and there's others out there.
+10, Crank is dead on, I assumed you would be in the valley and could check it out, on Ebay without a great deal of additional info the listing is a joke.
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Old 12-29-16, 07:49 PM
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I am in Phoenix so I can check it out prior to buying. I submitted a $1000 offer on eBay that expired. Seller never even responded so I question the legitimacy
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Old 12-29-16, 07:51 PM
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I would say even if everything checks out good really only a $800-1000 bike with the mixed parts and dull black paint, eh cosmetics. As presented I couldn't see going over $500-$600 without being able to check it out in person.
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Old 12-29-16, 08:59 PM
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I can check it out in person but the seller hasn't even responded to two inquiries on ebay. that's why I'm doubting the integrity of the bike overall. I contacted him thru ebay and told him I'm local and available for quick sale and no response. That raised a HUGE red flag
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Old 12-29-16, 09:23 PM
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It is hard to say.
It is probably a Colnago Super frame from the mid 80's. But, as others mentioned, there are a few things to look for which haven't been photographed (varies, but should have at least a few of the elements).
  • Clover cutouts on at least some lugs (headtube, seattube).
  • Cutout on bottom bracket. Probably Colnago logo by mid 80's.
  • Clover or COLNAGO on seat stays (except very early models).
  • Clover on brake bridge.
  • Colnago or Campagnolo dropouts (probably Colnago by age of frame).
The components seem to be a bit mixed, as if ridden hard, or assembled from a bare frame. Modolo groupset?

Personally, I think the Super was past its prime by the mid 80's. So, perhaps I'd jump on a late 60's or early 70's Super.

For an 80's or 90's model, I'd prefer just about anything else. Mexico, Nuovo Mexico, Master, Conic, etc. And LOTS of Campy bits.

Very few built up Colnago bikes go for under $800. (exceptions: Sport, Junior, and some Aluminum frames).
But, personally, I'd cap it around $1000.
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Old 01-01-17, 01:38 PM
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I've now made two attempts to contact the seller thru ebay and one thru Craigslist with no responses. Maybe letting him know I was local and could see the bike is a minus in his eyes???? Makes me a bit suspicious.
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Old 01-01-17, 03:14 PM
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Odd story. Could be a clueless seller who's been trying to sell forever and is no longer very responsive after getting too many tire-kickers/lowballers sniffing around, plus it's the holidays and he or she may be distracted. Or the odd description and terrible photos are an attempt to appear clueless, as you've considered, and they're wanting to ship it. I'd try again through CL, maybe in the coming week. You don't lose anything by being patient, since this has been for sale for a fairly long time.
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Old 01-01-17, 04:23 PM
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Hang in there, I'm with Kevin, it just does not sound like a scam to me. If it was Ebay only I would run but Craig's list is local face to face. If what he wrote is true and that saddle($$) and other bits are all there it could be a fantastic bike. I have had buyers get to me after a week when a "good buyer" did not come through.
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Old 01-01-17, 04:42 PM
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I get it. I'm just sitting tight seeing if he responds. I'll keep everyone posted as to what I find. Maybe it is a great bike in the hands of a clueless seller.
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Old 01-01-17, 05:20 PM
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Different animal but same asking price. This seller presents a bike in a comforting way. Refinished but done at the factory, classic frame, 1st gen Campy C Record / delta's. Beautiful depth of graphics on the dark tone frame.

https:
//sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/5939327028.html

Colnago Master Piu Decor Campagnolo C Record Road Bike

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