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Old 01-03-17, 03:46 PM
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Mid 70's Schwinn Paramount Value

I have always wanted a 70's Paramount but not exactly sure what market value would be these days. Originality and condition are important to me so this seems like a pretty solid example. What do you think of this price?

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Judging from what I can see in the photos, it's probably worth the asking price plus. With the Campy top tube rear brake cable guides, it's almost certainly a P13-9, and in VG condition they can easily sell for upwards of $1,000 on ebay.

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I have always wanted a 70's Paramount but not exactly sure what market value would be these days. Originality and condition are important to me so this seems like a pretty solid example. What do you think of this price?

Thanks for any and all responses!

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Very sweet; I'd like to own that bike. It's my size and the price is good. @Scooper is our resident all things Schwinn expert. Buy it, post a bunch of pics in the C&V forum, and watch us all get a bit jealous,
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I would say it is a good deal....at 700 you might have room to negotiate a little....bring cash and buy it, you will not regret it. Ben
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Why isn't it in your hot little hands yet??? RUN, don't walk!

Other than the rims and pedals, it looks all original.
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Thanks for the replies!

Trying to work out a deal as we speak. Although the seller isn't too keen on coming down much which means I've gotta start moving some of my stable to get the cash. No way I'm justifying bike #12 to the Mrs.
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Originally Posted by rideandgoseek View Post
Thanks for the replies!

Trying to work out a deal as we speak. Although the seller isn't too keen on coming down much which means I've gotta start moving some of my stable to get the cash. No way I'm justifying bike #12 to the Mrs.
Buy It for her as a late christmas present or early anniversary gift .....I know what year the diamond represents , what is the appropriate year for the Paramount ?
Get the Bike make up a story later.
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Buy It for her as a late christmas present or early anniversary gift .....I know what year the diamond represents , what is the appropriate year for the Paramount ?
Get the Bike make up a story later.
That works for me every time. I buy a new bike and tell my wife, honey it's for you. She doesn't ride bikes but the story never seems to get old.
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Weinmann concave rims.

I would pay $650 for it in a heartbeat and ask for forgiveness later. But then again, it's theoretical as I don't have a spouse. Your BL Cannondale would easily cover half.
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It is missing the original saddle and pedals, use that to get the price down a little. Other than that it looks great!
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Just do it!


Originally Posted by rideandgoseek View Post
thanks for the replies!

Trying to work out a deal as we speak. Although the seller isn't too keen on coming down much which means i've gotta start moving some of my stable to get the cash. No way i'm justifying bike #12 to the mrs.
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Old 01-04-17, 05:19 AM
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I hope you can get it done. That Paramount looks like a great winter project, even though it won't need much, just finding a few parts, a gentle cleaning and service. Please save it from falling into unappreciative hands! Looks great in blue! Jeff
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No reason really to ask value. Go.
Most of my bike have never been home.
One way to solve such questions.
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Unfortunately communication has pretty much dissolved with the seller. Was hoping to hear back last night on my last offer but never did. Woke up this morning to see the asking price has gone from $700 to $800 in his ad.

After hearing from you guys I have no doubt that it's still worth at least that but I may have reached my limit. Unfortunatey don't have $800 in the bike coffer at the moment. Pretty bummed
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Damn. Never heard of a bike going up in price on CL. Wow. Seller must be a real &%$#head.
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Damn. Never heard of a bike going up in price on CL. Wow. Seller must be a real &%$#head.
Its happened to me a couple times in the last few years. Both times, the seller was hit with a bunch of offers to come get the bike right away. The sellers messaged everyone and let em know the price had gone up. Being one of the potential buyers, i got each message.

These were different from a Paramount though. They were $175 bikes priced at $50 or something like that.
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It just seems a little underhanded. IMHO Seller should deliver bike to first person who arrives with cash in hand. Of course it could get a little tricky if seller can't deliver until a certain time (like after work) and, about a dozen people show up & are waiting ahead of time. Fights could erupt. A Paramount battle. Guns blazing in the twighlight. Madness. Absolute madness I say! (sorry, I got a little carried away).
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I am not sure how this went down...did you see the bike and make the offer or make the offer over the phone. If it was the later IMHO that was a mistake.
I never negotiate over the phone...I may ask if the seller is firm on the price but that is it. The reason is simple if I offer a lower price and the owner wants to think about it and I leave, they will probably get other calls and put the word out that they have an offer of X amount....and you know what happens next.
If I was there with money in hand and made the lower offer and seller wanted to think on it I would step up to the 700 and be done with it, if that was a price I was comfortable with it.
For 800 you still can't go wrong, but I would get the address and ask to see the bike so I could close the deal. By sure you will not have nonbuyers remorse...that tough too.
Good luck and Just my 2 cents, Ben


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Unfortunately communication has pretty much dissolved with the seller. Was hoping to hear back last night on my last offer but never did. Woke up this morning to see the asking price has gone from $700 to $800 in his ad.

After hearing from you guys I have no doubt that it's still worth at least that but I may have reached my limit. Unfortunatey don't have $800 in the bike coffer at the moment. Pretty bummed
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There's a 1974 Paramount frame w/headset/bottom bracket on eBay that's up to $710 right now, with 4 days to go.
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I still think $800 is a fair price for the bike but the sellers ethics are sorta' crappy.
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I still think $800 is a fair price for the bike but the sellers ethics are sorta' crappy.
If someone offered to buy the bike for $700 and the seller reneged, then his ethics are crappy. If all he got was a bunch of lesser offers, there's no obligation to maintain the low price.
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With CL deals, try to do a little research then move on it. CL is all about acting quickly and showing up with cash.( If it is local to you), don't negotiate over the phone, just make appt. to view and make cash offer in person. If you are local and can't schedule a viewing, say you will put down deposit, or if confident say take you'll take it. If you are out of area you are at disadvantage, basically try wag your tail and convince seller you aren't a scammer and do math with shipping. It is risk buying from afar. Funny but not really, because since I have been doing the whole Cyclist lifestyle carfree thing, is that more than a few deals in my local market have slipped through my fingers because I couldn't jump in a vehicle to view. Maybe if I stop piece mealing parts on ebay I will get a car.

Mehheh whatever, I haven't done that bad buying from a distance. Just got a pretty nice Bianchi. lol the exact same Dusty rose color Trofeo model I bought before,(same price too) except much cleaner!! So I have two now, Ones a rider and other is well... just a lot nicer and not paint faded.
I will do a comparison soon.
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Crazy turn of events today. Seller finally got back to me and accepted my offer of $600 which includes the original pedals! Real weird that he increased his asking price but then accepted my offer. Either way, I'm not complaining!

I totally agree about not negotiating via phone or email if the seller is local. Unfortunately this seller is 2 hours and 15 minutes away from me so I felt I had to do the negotiating via email. Hopefully the communication keeps up and he doesn't back out before Friday morning when I'm making the drive down. Big snow storm today and tomorrow in CO so I had to put the deal off until Friday when I know the mountain roads will be better.

Sidenote - I'm gonna be posting my '86 Bianchi Trofeo on the local CL later tonight to help fund this purchase. If anyone is interested take a look. Thanks again to everyone for the guidance along the way. Really hope this all works out!

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That's crazy my two Bianchis are 86 Trofeos's as well. Formula One Bianchi/Columbus tubing right? w/SR Rear/ frnt derailer and Modello Equipe brakes.

Yeah the deal for the Paramount sounds like it will probably go through. The weather brings up a good point, and other times you may just be busy or at work or something. Deals come and go and it and doesn't always make sense to drop everything and run out and check something out. That's a bit of of drive in maybe not best weather sounds like. CL eye candy can make you get a little over eager sometimes, and the "Hunt " can be a bit of a hustle as well. Thats also why I say, whatever bike I got to come to my doorstep was $50 less, because of gas and time output to go check something out.



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Crazy turn of events today. Seller finally got back to me and accepted my offer of $600 which includes the original pedals! Real weird that he increased his asking price but then accepted my offer. Either way, I'm not complaining!

I totally agree about not negotiating via phone or email if the seller is local. Unfortunately this seller is 2 hours and 15 minutes away from me so I felt I had to do the negotiating via email. Hopefully the communication keeps up and he doesn't back out before Friday morning when I'm making the drive down. Big snow storm today and tomorrow in CO so I had to put the deal off until Friday when I know the mountain roads will be better.

Sidenote - I'm gonna be posting my '86 Bianchi Trofeo on the local CL later tonight to help fund this purchase. If anyone is interested take a look. Thanks again to everyone for the guidance along the way. Really hope this all works out!

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That's crazy my two Bianchis are 86 Trofeos's as well. Formula One Bianchi/Columbus tubing right? w/SR Rear/ frnt derailer and Modello Equipe brakes.
Thanks to the help of a lot of BF members I came to the realization that my Trofeo was an'86 but had its Shimano 600 group most likely donated from an '85 Miele. Good looking and riding bike nonetheless
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