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50s/60s Saeta with Nervex lugs

Old 01-18-17, 12:41 PM
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50s/60s Saeta with Nervex lugs

I really haven't been able to find any info on this bike other than I was told it was made in Guadalajara, Mexico. All of the parts on it appear to be French.

I'm just curious as to what it may be worth before I decide what to do with it. I'd love to restore it, but I don't want to go digging into it before I know what I'm dealing with. I'd hate to ruin it lol.




















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Thanks so much for sharing this fascinating cycle.

Will look forward to following the discussion to learn if actually made in Mexico or if it represents a contract build done in France.

Appears to date from right near 1960.

Great item.

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That Simplex lever front derailleur with the metal knob is 1960 or earlier; Simplex changed to plastic knobs about 1959.
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Search Google Images for 'bicicleta saeta' and for 'ciclos saeta'
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Looking at Google results, the Saeta marque is from Eibar, Spain
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In the early sixties, I purchased a bike and equipment from a Canadian who had lived and raced in Mexico. He had participated in the Tour of Mexico and the bike I purchased was the Saeta which he had ridden in that event.

The frame was a colour which I always thought of as a ‘flamboyant yellow’ and was very similar to the OP’s bike colour.

The frame was decalled as ‘Hecho en Mexico’ (Made in Mexico) as were the sprint (tubular) rims which were on the bike. A decal of the ‘caballero’ on the seat tube, and a Saeta decal on the down tube were the same as on the OP’s bike. Saeta means dart or arrow in Spanish. IIRC, the frame had short spearpoint lugs and Simplex forged dropouts. The forks ends were chromed up to about 1/3 of the fork blades, and the seat and chain stays were given similar treatment. The chrome/paint transitions were subtly banded with the colours of Mexico’s flag, red, white and green.

The rest of the bike’s equipment, other than the saddle (Brooks) was French. Stronglight crankset and headset, Simplex derailleurs (down tube shifters) and quick release hubs, Lyotard pedals, Mafac brakes, and a French stem and bars (name long forgotten).

The other equipment that I received consisted of another pair of wheels (rims Hecho en Mexico) with Simplex Q/R hubs, wool jerseys with ‘San Francisco Tlaltenco’ embroidered on them, and a couple of pairs of wool shorts. The shorts were different because they weren’t lined with chamois which was the fashion at the time, but with a very smooth thin leather (kid?). Jerseys and shorts were identified as of Mexican manufacture.

The only photo I have of my Saeta is on the attached photo. Unfortunately I never had a close up photo of the bike. I ultimately has some issues with the rear triangle on the bike and I gave the frame to a friend who owned a bike shop.
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I think you have a keeper and a good one to restore.
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Interesting that it is a Spanish marque with French components, built in Mexico. Spain used French threading but Mexico traditionally used Italian threading. It would be interesting to know the threading standard used on this bicycle.

My understanding is that the TdF rear derailleur came out in 1948 and the Competition front derailleur followed in 1949. The 1953 and 1954 catalogues show the thumbscrew on the Competition being replaced by a nut. So, assuming everything is OEM and I'm correct in my understanding, I'd say very early 1950s.

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