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Old 04-24-17, 09:59 AM
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Wheelset, sell whole or separate?

27" Fiamme yellow Label rims, Campy high flange Tipo hubs, Campy straight blade skewers. A few of the spokes need replaced and decent freewheel. What the best way to sell?
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Hard to sell 27" wheels these days. If you took them apart, polished (a little, don't go crazy) and repacked the hubs, I bet you could get almost as much as you want for the entire wheels. Plus easier and cheaper shipping.
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Yeah my guess is you'd get as much for the hubs and a freewheel as for the entire set + easier to ship.
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I'm not sure about your question on separation. Separate the front wheel from the back, or separate the parts?

If you are going to knock them down, I would sell the rims as a pair, the hubs as a pair with skewers, and the freewheel alone. That would mean servicing and cleaning them.

If you don't want to clean up and service the parts, then sell them whole as-is, as a pair of vintage wheels and let the buyer deal with service.
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What's a fair price for the hubs and skewers after cleaning and servicing?
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Originally Posted by lostarchitect View Post
and repacked the hubs,
When I buy hubs, I want to grease them myself.

If you repack the hubs... Great if races and cones are in perfect condition (take a photo as evidence). But, otherwise, you've "seen" the damage, and should disclose.

Of course, that is also why so much garbage gets sold on E-Bay. Sellers don't want to put in the effort to verify condition.
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Originally Posted by CliffordK View Post
When I buy hubs, I want to grease them myself.

If you repack the hubs... Great if races and cones are in perfect condition (take a photo as evidence). But, otherwise, you've "seen" the damage, and should disclose.

Of course, that is also why so much garbage gets sold on E-Bay. Sellers don't want to put in the effort to verify condition.
Yeah, me too, but I doubt that's the case for 90% of buyers.
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This is italian threaded right? It can be rethreaded to English though. Nice hubs too. I don't see a lot of value in the entire wheel given shipping costs.
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Originally Posted by sloar View Post
What's a fair price for the hubs and skewers after cleaning and servicing?

I see completed ebay auctions for $123, $119, $105, $103, $100, $89, and $85 (with no skewers).
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Originally Posted by lostarchitect View Post
I see completed ebay auctions for $123, $119, $105, $103, $100, $89, and $85 (with no skewers).
I'm sorry but that is just crazy money; I need to sell my campy NR high flange hubs for more!
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Originally Posted by lostarchitect View Post
Yeah, me too, but I doubt that's the case for 90% of buyers.
C&V buyers who buy small components in the Campy market may be different than other buyers.

Shiny on the outside does help though.
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Originally Posted by bikemig View Post
I'm sorry but that is just crazy money; I need to sell my campy NR high flange hubs for more!
Yeah, and I left out the NOS sales which were a lot higher.
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I believe the Fiamme Yellows are a lightweight tubular rim, if they are in good shape they have some value. But I hate used rims, its hard to make true round wheels out of old used rims. Tipo hubs seem to be more desirable that the actual quality suggests, but that's the market place. With the broken spokes I would just remove the freewheel, cut the spokes out, and polish the living crap out of everything then sell them like that. You need to do an eBay survey to find current selling prices.
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I think if they're rims for sew-ups, they're 700C, not 27".

I believe Italian-threaded hubs don't need any special processing to take an English/ISO freewheel - a person has to just spin the freewheel on, being careful not to cross-thread it, and it's recommended that you NOT go back to Italian once you used British, at least for freewheels.
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Originally Posted by philbob57 View Post
I think if they're rims for sew-ups, they're 700C, not 27".

I believe Italian-threaded hubs don't need any special processing to take an English/ISO freewheel - a person has to just spin the freewheel on, being careful not to cross-thread it, and it's recommended that you NOT go back to Italian once you used British, at least for freewheels.
Correct on both points. I think--if memory serves me well--that Sutherlands says you shouldn't use an Italian threaded hub that has undergone an "English conversion" on your tandem.
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Originally Posted by howsteepisit View Post
I believe the Fiamme Yellows are a lightweight tubular rim, if they are in good shape they have some value. But I hate used rims, its hard to make true round wheels out of old used rims. Tipo hubs seem to be more desirable that the actual quality suggests, but that's the market place. With the broken spokes I would just remove the freewheel, cut the spokes out, and polish the living crap out of everything then sell them like that. You need to do an eBay survey to find current selling prices.
Reds are tubular, yellow is a 27" clincher.
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Way back when, mid 70's Fiamme had a lighter version of the red tubular rims, I am pretty sure they were yellow label. But that was long ago, in a land far far away, so my memory may be wrong.
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Originally Posted by howsteepisit View Post
Way back when, mid 70's Fiamme had a lighter version of the red tubular rims, I am pretty sure they were yellow label. But that was long ago, in a land far far away, so my memory may be wrong.
Your memory serves you well, Grasshopper!
The Fiamme Ergal was also called "yellow" or "gold" label, one of the lightest commonly available rims BITD.
If these rims are Ergals and not torn up they have value. Especially if drilled less than 36 holes.
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Mine are 27" 36h clinchers, still pretty light.


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I would piece things out you should keep the hubs as a set with matching original skewers they should get $100-150 in good shape. As set vintage used yellow labels well get you $50-60 in nice shape and typical better vintage freewheels go for $25-30. So your looking at about $200-225 pieced while as a set whole with 27 rims only $100-125.

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Originally Posted by zukahn1 View Post
I would piece things out you should keep the hubs as a set with matching original skewers they should get $100-150 in good shape. As set vintage used yellow labels well get you $50-60 in nice shape and typical better vintage freewheels go for $25-30. So your looking at about $200-225 pieced while as a set whole with tuby rims only $100-125.
Already in the classified section, I took all of the advise. Close up pics of the races and bearings.
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Looking at the pics the big plus on these is they are a actual matching set with matching skewers in excellent condition. It seems half the time you didn't get matched sets on new bikes in the boom era.
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