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1973 Schwinn World Voyageur

Old 05-06-17, 03:09 PM
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1973 Schwinn World Voyageur

What does one in decent shape go for these days? All original (except saddle), orange, good paint and chrome. 21" frame.

Sorry, one mediocre picture, and eBay not much help.
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Old 05-06-17, 03:17 PM
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The Pride-Of-Matsu****a!

Love the two helmets. One can only wonder about the last rider. Perhaps it was a Rosey Grier - Ray Milland combo:



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Old 05-06-17, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by juvela View Post
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The Pride-Of-Matsu****a!

Love the two helmets. One can only wonder about the last rider. Perhaps it was a Rosey Grier - Ray Milland combo:



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Well, that was no help whatsoever, and I know it's a lousy picture, but there is one helmet with a cable lock inside of it.

Thanks for your lack of help
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Old 05-06-17, 04:50 PM
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In my area, Ohio, $100.
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Old 05-06-17, 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Flog00 View Post
In my area, Ohio, $100.
That is a Collegiate price. This is a World Voyageur.

Here's one with a bent fork:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-1972...sAAOSwyQtV01Kq
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Old 05-06-17, 05:06 PM
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I think more like 150 -200 if you fix the saddle.
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Old 05-06-17, 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by howsteepisit View Post
I think more like 150 -200 if you fix the saddle.
For all I know the original Fujita Belt could be under the cover.

Last one that sold on eBay:
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Old 05-06-17, 05:41 PM
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No collegiate will bring 100 here, why ask for valuations and then argue about it?


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That is a Collegiate price. This is a World Voyageur.


No collegiate will bring 100 here, why ask for valuations and then argue about it?

Here's one with a bent fork:
Vintage 1972 Schwinn world Voyager rare orange in color | eBay
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Originally Posted by jiangshi View Post
For all I know the original Fujita Belt could be under the cover.

Last one that sold on eBay:
1972 Schwinn World Voyageur 21 In. Kool Orange Touring Bike Very Good Condition | eBay

Seems like someone overpaid to me, but those were really nice bikes back then. Clean up yours and go for it. Hell if one sold for 500, try 650.
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Old 05-06-17, 06:23 PM
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To be crystal clear, it's not my bike, but I'm thinking of buying it with flipping in mind.

I have no idea what it will sell for, but a few years ago these were somewhat desirable. Maybe not so much anymore.
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I think they are much better bikes than the general consensus thinks. There is little to no cachet with the bike, so flipping will involve finding a person who knows about and likes this specific bike. I think it's risky.
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So the second from the top is worth about the same as second from bottom?

Yikes.
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Huh? The second from the top is probably worth more than the second from the bottom, but condition, collectability, marketing presentation, and location all enter into the value of a bicycle. You need to be aware that valuations are an art and reflect the evaluator's experience, market, and biases. Often bikes are sold for less than or more than people's estimated values. If you want to be a flipper, you need experience to be able to assess what it will take to sell in your market. You will win some lose some.

Good Luck!
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I should buy it for 50...80 and try selling it for 200 or more.
I sold in the last three years around 10...15 Colegiate with prices between 100 and 140.
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Originally Posted by howsteepisit View Post
Huh? The second from the top is probably worth more than the second from the bottom, but condition, collectability, marketing presentation, and location all enter into the value of a bicycle. You need to be aware that valuations are an art and reflect the evaluator's experience, market, and biases. Often bikes are sold for less than or more than people's estimated values. If you want to be a flipper, you need experience to be able to assess what it will take to sell in your market. You will win some lose some.

Good Luck!
Flipped for a decade, haven't flipped for a decade. I just don't have a pulse on the current market. I was hoping to find out if a World Voyageur was still considered valuable. 10 years ago it would have brought as much as a Paramount.

Before the market crash I could get $200 for a nice Collegiate or Suburban, $300 for a Raleigh Sports. There is not much of a comparison for a World Voyageur in today's market, which is why I asked.

You have not been much of a help, other to add to my ignore list.
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I'd pay up to 350 or so for a nice World Voyageur. Really sweet bikes with a little Schwinn coolness thrown in.
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Originally Posted by jiangshi View Post
What does one in decent shape go for these days? All original (except saddle), orange, good paint and chrome. 21" frame.
There are several other non-original parts on that bike in addition to the saddle. Also note that it has the smallest 21" frame, which may limit the potential market.

For all I know the original Fujita Belt could be under the cover.
The original saddle wasn't a Fujita Belt. Given the missing original parts and questionable condition I'd value it at around $250, maybe a bit more if one intended on parting it out.

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The Pride-Of-Matsu****a!
They were also made by Bridgestone, although those examples are much more rare.

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Originally Posted by jiangshi View Post
Flipped for a decade, haven't flipped for a decade. I just don't have a pulse on the current market. I was hoping to find out if a World Voyageur was still considered valuable. 10 years ago it would have brought as much as a Paramount.

Before the market crash I could get $200 for a nice Collegiate or Suburban, $300 for a Raleigh Sports. There is not much of a comparison for a World Voyageur in today's market, which is why I asked.

You have not been much of a help, other to add to my ignore list.

Sorry to have engaged you. I will go back to my original thought 150-200, but for you, 0
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Originally Posted by Metacortex View Post
There are several other non-original parts on that bike in addition to the saddle. Also note that it has the smallest 21" frame, which may limit the potential market.



The original saddle wasn't a Fujita Belt. Given the missing original parts and questionable condition I'd value it at around $250, maybe a bit more if one intended on parting it out.



They were also made by Bridgestone, although those examples are much more rare.
What is not original that you can see? Toe clips missing? What else? Freewheel?
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What is not original that you can see? Toe clips missing? What else? Freewheel?
Freewheel, spoke protector, brake levers, and toe clips/straps. The original saddle was a Fujita Seamless Super Y.F.C. The wheels appear to be original but I'd want to verify that before purchasing.
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Local Detroit market is soft, also too small for most guys. Otherwise IMHO $250-$299 locally, refurbished.

EBAY it and go high. Might appeal to the overseas Japanese market with small frame.
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Originally Posted by oddjob2 View Post
Local Detroit market is soft, also too small for most guys. Otherwise IMHO $250-$299 locally, refurbished.

EBAY it and go high. Might appeal to the overseas Japanese market with small frame.
Yet, you are asking $375 for an 11.8
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Local Detroit market is soft, also too small for most guys. Otherwise IMHO $250-$299 locally, refurbished.

EBAY it and go high. Might appeal to the overseas Japanese market with small frame.
+1 This seems to be a $250-300 bike, it could be more but the paint and chrome are just OK and with vintage Schwinns you really need to have near perfect original paint and chrome to get top dollar.
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Just to follow up. The bike became available today. The firm asking price was $200. I would have paid as much as $80, but would have preferred under $50. The saddle is a replacement (Schwinn) and the paint and chrome are okay, not spectacular.

I may go back tomorrow and see if it's still hanging around, but maybe not.
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Even with your ignoring me, my estimate of 150-200 seems pretty decent.
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