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1985 (?) Pro-Miyata - Fair Price?

Old 05-09-17, 08:02 PM
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1985 (?) Pro-Miyata - Fair Price?

Hi everyone, I'm thinking of purchasing a bike I found on my local classifieds app. It seems to be a 1985 or 86 year model Pro-Miyata, parts seem original except for the wheels; he said his wheels were stolen so he just threw on a spare wheelset he had laying around; says it's been sitting in his garage for the last 8 months; he's had it for five years and used it up till the wheels were stolen, then he got a new bike. He sent me video and everything seems to shift smoothly without issues, and the paint seems to be in very good condition given the age of the bike.

Parts list:
Frame - Triple Butted Cro-Mo
Handlebars - Ritchey CompLite/SR Sakae Custom
Seat - Bernard Hinault Turbo
Brake Calipers - NGC400
Derailleur - Suntour Superbe
Crank/Bottom Bracket - Suntour Superbe Pro
Tires - Serfas Seca
Rims - Matrix Titan
Hubs - Maillard 500

Here are photos of the bicycle: edit; can't post links yet, I put the url in my Bikes section on the left, under my username (sorry, if this violates any forum rules I will immediately remove it)

The seller is asking $600 for the bike, but is taking offers; what do you think is a reasonable/fair offer for this bicycle? I'm located by Los Angeles, California by the way; not sure if that changes the pricing due to the market.

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Old 05-09-17, 08:06 PM
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Also, I was wondering, how does this model bike (Pro-Miyata) compare to other Chome-Moly Miyata bikes of the era (210, 310, 610, 1000, etc.), and what does Triple Butted mean regarding the frame?
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Old 05-09-17, 08:14 PM
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Pic Assist.
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We need pics to give an accurate valuation; condition really matters. This is a fine bike but $600 is too high even in a high dollar town like L.A.
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Thanks Cb400bill for the assist, I appreciate it! And I linked detailed pictures of all the components that the seller sent me in my bio under my username; still a new member so I can't post URLs yet.
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Old 05-09-17, 08:25 PM
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Nice bike with the current lesser not quit right wheelset on a local add I would say $300-350 while I would try for less., if it was in great shape with a correct wheelset I would say $500 or so.
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Old 05-09-17, 08:28 PM
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We need pics to give an accurate valuation; condition really matters. This is a fine bike but $600 is too high even in a high dollar town like L.A.
The Pro Miyata is a racing bike, not a touring bike like the 610 or 1000.

IMHO, Los Angeles is not a high demand vintage bike market, only average. Bike has an unusually long stem for a 56cm frame.

FMV is about about $300 +/- $50.
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Old 05-09-17, 08:57 PM
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Thanks everyone for the help thus far! I tried to talk him down to $300 but he's firm on $400. Should I walk away from it? Haggling any further seems to be useless, used up all the cards I have for negotiating I believe; can't think of anything else.

Tried bringing up the fact that it doesn't have the correct wheelset but he's not willing to knock down the price any further because of it.

His words were, "Everything works well and the tires hold air, the wheels are true, gears shift fine and no rubbing at all, the wheels are the correct dimensions and the cassette have the right number of gears so I don't see why that's grounds for bringing the price down. Everything functions just as well as the original wheels that got stolen, if not better since the tread and tubes are fairly new."
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At this point it appears that he knows what he wants for the bike and you are willing to pay less, Time to walk away. He does not have to justify his price to you or anyone. The price has dropped 33% seems like bona fide effort to me.
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At this point it appears that he knows what he wants for the bike and you are willing to pay less, Time to walk away. He does not have to justify his price to you or anyone. The price has dropped 33% seems like bona fide effort to me.
But the front skewer is backward, thus requiring a heavy discount.
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Walk.

If you haven't already, peruse the "Are you looking for one of these?" thread at the C&V Forum proper. Start with the last page first, and work your way back. Many fine riders are available at reasonable prices.

Patience is often prudent.
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Old 05-10-17, 10:19 AM
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I am impressed he managed to fit titans on there, they tend to be pretty wide wheels but perhaps that is just the tour version is wide. Cash in hand is always best negotiating tactic, if he turns down 300 in person then so be it. 400 is not unrealistic for functioning pro miyata but the lack of original wheelset does hurt value. As others mentioned the frame is a racing, some racing bikes perform better with a long stem to get more weight over the front wheel.
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Before you decide to give up on the bike I would suggest you go look at it in person and take a test ride if possible to so how it performs with the current wheels and handlebar setup. If everything works good for you and you like the bike $400 isn't completely out of line.
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