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90's Time Helix Carbon with Dura-Ace 7700

Old 05-17-17, 12:14 PM
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90's Time Helix Carbon with Dura-Ace 7700

96(?) Time Helix Equipe HM carbon fiber bike. "CAT" technology Carbon Advanced Composite frame. Mostly DA: RD, FD, Cranks, Rings, Cassette, Levers, Brakes. Ultegra 6800 BB, 600 Tricolor hubs, 7800 pedals. Mavic tubular rims with an extra tire. Cinelli stem, Campagnolo seat post.

Everything is in good working condition. Chips throughout on the frame, no cracks.

Have a bunch more pictures if needed. Any info is appreciated, thanks.
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Old 05-18-17, 12:13 PM
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Old 05-19-17, 10:17 AM
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Older CF bonded framed bikes do not retain as much value as most people think, despite them being the top of the line bikes tha might have cost 1500 to 2500 bucks when they were new.
It's because of the cycling public's general impression that these frames cannot be trusted to stay together after years of use and exposure to the environment.
Condition is critical to how much value is left on the bike. With CF bonded bikes, it's only the ones in mint to NOS condition that still have "significant" market value,
Your Time CF bike, with the frame wear you described might sell up to only the low to mid 300's, max, if you find the right buyer that might be thinking of restoring it with a new clear finish and decals, or desperate to just harvest the components from the frame to use on a build that needs the particular component group on the Time. In the end, most of the value is in the components on your bike.
I own four C&V CF bonded bikes from the mid to the late 80's of varying brands and my take on value on these bikes is based on my experience on buying and building them up through the last few years.
Only other factor tht could raise the value of C&V CF bonded bikes is if the particular model bike might be a close replica to bikes used by the big Pro teams on big races like the TdF with success, especially if it was ridden by the most famous riders of the time. but then again, condition will play a very big part in determining how much value is in the frame/bike.

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It's a fun ride and occasionally, I wonder about the longevity of the frame. Figured that the parts are a more sure bet on value, but seems like a pain to part–out the bike.

Thanks for the info. How do you like your CF bonded bikes?
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I think you're not going to get a ton of responses here as a lot of the people aren't all that into carbon (we do know that whole asplosion thing is just a joke though) and it'll be a couple of years yet before most of them consider 1996 vintage. It is an interesting frame though.
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Cool, thanks for the heads up. Just wasn't too sure where to ask, this seemed like the most reasonable place?

I agree it's an interesting, fun frame. Might just keep it then if there is not much interest these days. Maybe that will change down the road, or it will give out on a ride before then...
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Originally Posted by therover View Post
It's a fun ride and occasionally, I wonder about the longevity of the frame. Figured that the parts are a more sure bet on value, but seems like a pain to part–out the bike.

Thanks for the info. How do you like your CF bonded bikes?
I really love the way my CF C&V bonded framed bikes ride and handle, and certainly their unique C&V aesthetics.
My 1985 Vitus Plus Carbone 7 is on the Flexible side but it pays you back in comfort and steady handling. It is also my lightest C&V bike at the moment, at 17.15 pounds. I'm planning to get it into the low 16 pound weight range by installing the CLB Professionel brakeset (with aluminum brake cable casings) and Maillard Course aluminum freewheel that I have in my component stash..
My 1986 Alan Record Carbonio is the Thoroughbred of the bunch. Quick, precise handling and very stiff, so it is feels really fast and agile.
My 1985 Peugeot PY10FC (team replica) falls in between the Alan and the Vitus. A very refined all rounder. Quick, precise handling, but with one of the quietest, smoothest rides I ever felt on a bike.
My oldest bike, a 1972 Line Seeker is more of a museum piece. After all the years it's been around, the bonds at the joints are still good and the bike is rideable. It's quite stiff on the vertical plane, but quite flexible on the horizontal. I haven't really concluded as a whole how the bike rides as I had such few miles on it since I restored it about four years ago. Just don't want to risk damaging it as it is a very rare bike. Pretty much one of, if not the first commercially sold CF bike.
All these CF bonded framed bikes I acquired in the last six years, all in excellent shape when I got them and so far, no signs at all of any frame bond failures
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