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Old 05-28-17, 06:52 PM
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Rossin Titanium

Hi there.

This frame has been haunting me for a while now. --- perfect size for me. And I've always wanted a rossin. But also want something light/modern'ish for my next road bike.
Everytime i see it on eBay or Facebook, the price keeps going down. It's down to $1000 CAD now. And I'm very tempted.

This eBay auction is over ... but the same frame is posted on a Facebook classifieds page i follow for the price mentioned above.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rossin-TITAN...-/112330632768

Do y'all think it's worth it? --- or should i back away?
Thanks.
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I'm wondering about the welding. Really bad looking for a titanium frame. Looks more like a welded aluminum frame with titanium stickers.
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Originally Posted by Secret Squirrel
I'm wondering about the welding. Really bad looking for a titanium frame. Looks more like a welded aluminum frame with titanium stickers.
Hmm.. you're right. I don't know enough about titanium frames to comment on the welding .. but that looked suspicious to me as well.
I can't find any other information on this bike ... other than a link on steel-vintage (which I'm assuming is the same exact frame)

Wonder if it's a generic frame with a rossin decal on it? --- cant be. I dunno.

https://www.steel-vintage.com/rossin...rameset-detail
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I would agree those welds look very iffy for titaniaum frameset. I couldn't see paying more than $300-350 for this frameset.
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Just curious. Why would you paint a titanium frame? Seems counterproductive to me. Oh wait... Titanium colored paint!

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Backing away

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I've done some titanium welding, and that does look like it's probably a ti frame. Unfortunately, those welds are pretty ugly. Ti is the last place you want ugly welds - the likely hood of inclusions or stress risers would be high. That isn't something ti takes kindly to. Also, I would worry that someone making such sloppy welds probably didn't keep the weld puddle sheilded very well. Just about any discoloration past straw yellow means very brittle, short lived welds. I would pass.

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Welding is horrendous. Look at the messy bits around the seat tube bottle bosses, the half-welded gear cable stops on the down tube. But the worst? Has to be that the down tube appears to have been folded from sheet and welded along its length, then the weld sanded down. This photo shows the weld disappearing up towards the head tube:



Rossin made quality stuff. If this isn't counterfeit then their game has slipped dramatically.

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I agree with back away. If you're Jones-ing for a Rossin (as I have been for a while) go with a Record or Ghibli. Even if it is authentic, Ti is not what that builder does.
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Originally Posted by FBOATSB
Just curious. Why would you paint a titanium frame? Seems counterproductive to me. Oh wait... Titanium colored paint!


Actually I had my first Ti Bianchi painted, mostly because it was a Bianchi and it should be Celeste, I also wasn't crazy about advertising the Ti aspect for some reason. My current Ti Bianchi is painted simply because that's how most of them came.


This frame reminds me of the Bianchi Ti MegaPro with that YUGE coffin shaped DT, but I agree someone either had too much espresso before starting work or too much Grappa the night before!!
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Thanks. Was not aware of that.
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