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Davis Phinney Serotta value

Old 05-30-17, 07:46 PM
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Davis Phinney Serotta value

Missed out on buying this at the Georgetown, SC Habitat Restore for $100 this past weekend. Looks like the lucky serial ebayer listed it the day after for $500. I have a Ti Serotta and know a bit about the value of those frames, but what about an older steel, SLX, frame? Looks to be well worn, with Dura Ace and has Davis Phinney on the top tube. Asking price $500.

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Old 05-30-17, 08:36 PM
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I don't know a lot about Serotta in particular but I would think an SLX frame/fork from a quality builder would be worth $300-$500. The bike is a little ragged and back wheel is useless for most purposes. I wouldn't think that's too bad a price, however, but knowing what he paid for the bike, If I really wanted the bike, I would send him a message with an offer for $350-400 and see what happens.

Also is the NDS chainstay supposed to be crooked like that?
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That toptube looks pretty rough. I'd ask for better pics of that area.
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Old 05-31-17, 04:47 AM
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Thanks @spaghetti_legs and @sloar. I agree its pretty ragged and that the rear wheel isnt much more than something to hang on the wall. I might throw an offer to him of $250 cash pickup and see if he bites outside of ebay. I'm not dying to get this frame at the moment, but I've been curious to feel how if an SLX frame rides compared to an SL or EL. If I can get it at a decent price it might be a good test project.

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Originally Posted by Spaghetti Legs View Post
I don't know a lot about Serotta in particular but I would think an SLX frame/fork from a quality builder would be worth $300-$500. The bike is a little ragged and back wheel is useless for most purposes. I wouldn't think that's too bad a price, however, but knowing what he paid for the bike, If I really wanted the bike, I would send him a message with an offer for $350-400 and see what happens.

Also is the NDS chainstay supposed to be crooked like that?
I am pretty sure it is. I think if you look at the left seat stay it may have a similar bend. IIRC it was something Serotta came up with to try and help keep the rear wheel more firmly planted on the ground.
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Asymmetrical chainstays are a Phinney design trademark. It was developed with Ben Serotta in an attempt to keep the bottom end from noodling under the leg power of Phinney, who was a well known muscle sprinter. Those frames also tend to be long in the top tube for the size of the seat tube-another Phinney design preference.
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Full Dura Ace 7400-equipped Serotta for $400 would still be a deal.
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Great info on how the frame design. My Ti frame has slightly curved chainstays similar to what that shape is, probably an evolution of that same design. Interesting stuff. Fyi, the bike sold for $500. He was considering a lower offer from me, but also noted the frame rust on the top tube. I was even less enthused when I heard that info, for the price. Thanks for the insight.
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Old 05-31-17, 09:06 PM
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Just want to say, I'm sympathetic to your plight/loss due to recent circumstances. "Serial eBayer" here in ATL picked up a 60s Bianchi (Specialissima?) I recently found on OfferUp. I offered more than full price because I knew what it was, seller wouldn't budge, had someone waiting. I actually wanted it for a project, let that be known, and warned someone was trying to make $$ off it, I'd actually give what it's wroth. He sold to the other person 4 days after I reached out, and within 24 hours it was up on eBay, sold for $700-800.
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Yep @francophile, its always a bitter pill to lose a great find. Planned to give Habitat a more honest price/donation because I admire the work they do. They also got a Harry Havnoonian Ti bike in the same donation. I dont know anything about his shop, but it was clearly a special donation. All that being said, flipping a good deal isn't a crime. i've done it myself. Not the same circumstances but to each his own.
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Originally Posted by ciclimeacci View Post
Yep @francophile, its always a bitter pill to lose a great find. Planned to give Habitat a more honest price/donation because I admire the work they do. They also got a Harry Havnoonian Ti bike in the same donation. I dont know anything about his shop, but it was clearly a special donation. All that being said, flipping a good deal isn't a crime. i've done it myself. Not the same circumstances but to each his own.
Crazy stuff. I will say though, while I didn't get the Bianchi for its $150 list, less than 15 days later, an exceptionally-priced Behringer fell in my lap unexpectedly and came with a French pal. Not scoring the Bianchi was pivotal in my being able to pick up the other two, so a silver lining was found.

It's not uncommon to stumble across a treasure chest when walking away from a couple of gems
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@francophile, great quote.

"It's not uncommon to stumble across a treasure chest when walking away from a couple of gems"

I'll have to remember that, and hope I have your luck. Cheers!
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Originally Posted by ciclimeacci View Post
Yep @francophile, its always a bitter pill to lose a great find. Planned to give Habitat a more honest price/donation because I admire the work they do. They also got a Harry Havnoonian Ti bike in the same donation. I dont know anything about his shop, but it was clearly a special donation. All that being said, flipping a good deal isn't a crime. i've done it myself. Not the same circumstances but to each his own.
The Harry Havnoonian was build by a Philly shop. If the price is right it would be a nice bike.
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I have a similar bike, a 1991 professional SL in awesome condition with what i think is original campy parts got it as a gift.
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Originally Posted by ciclimeacci View Post
Thanks @spaghetti_legs and @sloar. I agree its pretty ragged and that the rear wheel isnt much more than something to hang on the wall. I might throw an offer to him of $250 cash pickup and see if he bites outside of ebay. I'm not dying to get this frame at the moment, but I've been curious to feel how if an SLX frame rides compared to an SL or EL. If I can get it at a decent price it might be a good test project.
I have an SLX Davis Phinney Serotta, while its not as cush as an SL frame, its stiffer and has less flex, better power transfer when i need to kick it a notch.
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