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Old 06-08-17, 02:08 PM
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Colnago - what do I have here?

I know precious little about 'Nagos, so I'm asking the good folks here for help.

Purchased from the original owner this morning. He told me: 53cm frame, mostly Campy, too stiff of a ride for him to want it anymore. Only thing I did is remove a set of aerobars and an ancient Cateye computer, and air it up. Took it for a short spin and didn't seem overly stiff to me, but maybe a longer ride would confirm.

Looks like NR derailleurs with rear marked '84, Triomphe crankset, fluted Campy seatpost. Wolber T430 Alpine clinchers on Campy hubs. Campy sidepulls. Colnago dropouts and Colnago-branded headset. 3T bars and stem.

Most of the Columbus tubing sticker is gone, so I have no idea what Columbus tubing lies underneath.

My questions:

1. Anyone know the year, model and/or tubing?

2. Approximate value as is?

Thanks in advance!
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Old 06-08-17, 03:47 PM
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Super 81 minimum, by the spool stay spacer . Or 82 onward if Colnago is stamped in the chrome chain stay . I think the sloping fork crown is after 83, but I'm not sure . You may have to date the components to be sure . They were made with SL tubes . Mine and others I've seen have full Super Record groups . I'm not saying that group is on 100% of them however . My 85 has the same saddle decals and stem, and rides quite nicely . Nice looking bike !
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Based on the components it is a 83/84 model they only made those style chain rings for a couple of years about 82-85 and the last year for the classic NR DR was 84.
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Old 06-08-17, 05:19 PM
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Looks like a Columbus SL decal, or what's left of it.
Yes, looks like a Super....with a mish mash of components.
It would be nice to restore it with at least full NR or SR gruppo....
Paint looks really good on it. You might consider restoring the decalwork on the frame. It really deserves it.

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Old 06-09-17, 06:28 AM
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Thank you all! Still haven't decided what to do with it yet, as I have no clue on value.
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Old 06-09-17, 11:15 AM
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In this case, most of the value is presently on the frame, as the components are good quality but mostly not top of the line nor in great condition..
I think, considering the need for new decals, but the good condition of the paint, the bike as-is (looks like it needs a full clean up and service) could be worth around $650ish, max. Clean it up really good, grease/service everything and replace all worn expendables like bar tape, tires, brake pads and cables, and you might get 150 bucks added to that.Also consider parting the bike out, as you might get more from the frame without the mixed up components pulling the value of it, down. It will attract more Colnago fans that would want to just build up a frame with their own gruppos ready to go in their stash.
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Old 06-09-17, 12:11 PM
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Thanks, Chombi, that's most helpful. I wouldn't mind doing an overhaul so maybe I'll go in that direction.
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My vote is for '82 or '83 Super. Note single set of bottle cage bosses. It should have crimped chain stays. The shifters, post, and cranks are Victory, which didn't come out until 1985.

I agree with the valuation above. Cleaned up, frame and fork alone could get $450-600.
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Thank you! I was wondering about the Campy parts mix, which suggests that they might not all be original to this frame, or it was built up from a frame with parts on hand rather than a complete group.
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Your Super has a band-on front derailleur. Most mid 1980s Supers I've seen have braze-on FD's. If you're trying to sell it you'll get more if you part it out. If you're keeping it I wouldn't worry too much about changing the components. I just restored a mid-1980s super but using a Triomphe group (the original SR group was pretty worn out), and I like the shifters, FD and brakes better on this "lower" group!

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Nice job on that Super, swin1! I like your light blue color better than my red. As far as the band FD, yep, it doesn't surprise me...makes me think this is a parts on hand build.
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Originally Posted by bargainguy View Post
Nice job on that Super, swin1! I like your light blue color better than my red. As far as the band FD, yep, it doesn't surprise me...makes me think this is a parts on hand build.
Thanks bargainguy! I looked up Colnago catalogs from the 80s and the light blue is close to their "Golden Sky Bleu" option. The red you have is a popular color for Colnago restorations.

Your bike may have actually come stock with that groupset as Colnago did re-launch the Super in a Victory version and I think there was a Triomphe version too. Anyway If I were you I'd just leave what you have on there, I think it works just as well as the higher tier groups.
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Originally Posted by bargainguy View Post
Thank you all! Still haven't decided what to do with it yet, as I have no clue on value.
Just send it to me!

I'll happily pay for shipping.
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Originally Posted by swin1 View Post
Thanks bargainguy! I looked up Colnago catalogs from the 80s and the light blue is close to their "Golden Sky Bleu" option. The red you have is a popular color for Colnago restorations.

Your bike may have actually come stock with that groupset as Colnago did re-launch the Super in a Victory version and I think there was a Triomphe version too. Anyway If I were you I'd just leave what you have on there, I think it works just as well as the higher tier groups.
Right. I hadn't planned on replacing components, just wear items, and a tune. Thanks!
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