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Old 07-04-17, 08:01 PM
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Vintage Peugeot value...

I found this vintage Peugeot and was wondering if anyone might know what it is...

The bike has a Stronglight crank and Simplex drive train. I was hoping that since the crank is a Stronglight and is not cottered that the bike might be something special and not the run of the mill bikes. Unfortunately this photo is about as good as it gets and I have not viewed the bike in person yet.

Any help is greatly appreciated.

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Old 07-05-17, 08:11 AM
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Looks to be an early 80's PH-10 check on the bottom side of the BB and rear stays it looks clean enough that the model sticker plac and serial number should still be readable. Very nice bike with some nice parts should be worth at least a couple of hundred if everything is in working order.

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Old 07-05-17, 09:45 AM
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Unless they had such in other markets (other than the US), I don't think PH10s ever had centerpull brakes......assuming of course, those brakes are original to the bike.....
PH10s also had lower model swaged cranksets, not the one piece model (Stronglight 104?) on that bike.
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Looks to be a UO 10 probably my favorite of all the UO series. Unlike the UO 8, it had alloy wheels, a forged crank, and real, non-delrin derailleurs. Unlike the UO 9 which came with steel rims, the 10 had alloy wheels. The UO 14 which came later was a little nicer still with a better frame.

Value? $150-$200. You can find a Japanese bike with a better frame at this price but this is an exceptionally clean bike and Peugeots tend to hold their own in the vintage bike market.

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Old 07-05-17, 09:04 PM
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It's a 1982 PKN-10.

Nice machine. Should have Reynolds main tubes; the decal will be above the downtube shifters. If memory serves, the word "Competition" is in script on the right side of the top tube near the seatpost. Stronglight 104 crank, Simplex derailleurs, Mafac brakes (I think that was the last Peugeot model to have the Mafac centerpulls, which is too bad since they were excellent brakes, strong, light and versatile). The one thing that is throwing me off is that it looks like high flange hubs and I think the OE was low flange, but Peugeot componentry did not always precisely match the specs.

As far as value goes, the PX-10 models get the real money; every other model is an also-ran, even though I bet if you could ride with your eyes closed you couldn't tell the difference between yours and the top Poo-dog. Your sample looks exceptionally well-preserved, but even so I would think it would top out at about $300 on the market.
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Old 07-06-17, 06:57 AM
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That bike could be a PKN 10. I worked in a Peugeot shop and I don't remember one with center pull brakes, hi flange hubs, or that style of seatpost and saddle. Heck I used to own one and rode it a lot.

But then that was a long time ago and I could be mistaken. The frame sticker will tell the tale as will the drop outs (i.e., whether they are forged or not).

Bottom line is that more pics would make this much easier to identify correctly. It's a fine bike in great shape regardless of the identification but whether it is a PKN 10 or a lower model will impact the valuation.
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Old 07-06-17, 10:53 AM
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I stand corrected. Bikemig was right. 1980-82 UO-10.

A little more internet search found this page from the 1980 catalog. Matches to a T everything that's visible. It remained unchanged through 1981 and 1982. The crankset was different 1979 and earlier, and the U0-10 was discontinued in 1983. The Peugeot script decals are also unique to the 1979-82 period. So there's your identification.

99.5% certain, anyway. My initial reference had been the Dutch catalogs, which show the 1980 through 1982 PKN-10s having Mavic centerpulls and the drilled levers, and the right other components, colors and visible decals. But they didn't have high-flange hubs. Also I am now seeing with a close inspection SamSpade's seat post clamp is a cheap steel one, and the PKN-10 had alloy Laprade. It's mathematically possible that SamSpade's bike is a Dutch version with a few changed components, but with the precise match to the US-market UO-10, I would have to be corrected with that. It would help to have more and better pictures. The frame material decal and the wording on the top tube would be the most reliable indicators.

As a UO-10, even in top condition, I would think the US market price would be US $150 to maybe $200.
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I'd love to find a UO 10 in top condition. It was my first touring bike and frankly it "fixed" the key issues with previous iterations of the bike (steel wheels, cottered cranks, and plastic derailleurs).

I'm sitting on a UE 8 in excellent condition so I guess I just need to "upgrade" it to match or exceed the specs on a UO 10. The frame is more or less the same. The delrin derailleurs on the UE 8 are crummy and I'm not fan of the cottered crank either. I may have to track down a cheapie french BB to make this work.
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I had one. got $180 for it. It wasn't perfect either, and it sold pretty quick.
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Old 07-06-17, 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by bikemig View Post
I'd love to find a UO 10 in top condition. It was my first touring bike and frankly it "fixed" the key issues with previous iterations of the bike (steel wheels, cottered cranks, and plastic derailleurs).

I'm sitting on a UE 8 in excellent condition so I guess I just need to "upgrade" it to match or exceed the specs on a UO 10. The frame is more or less the same. The delrin derailleurs on the UE 8 are crummy and I'm not fan of the cottered crank either. I may have to track down a cheapie french BB to make this work.
Can't help you there, but could hook you up with a 1980 PFN-10E. Stone original except for the bar tape and the tires. [Either it has to go, or the PX-10 does, and I loves me those Nervex lugs.] Regardless of what the catalogs say, I've weighed both, and the PFN-10, at 23.75 lbs [58 cm frame], is a good half-pound lighter than the PX-10. If you're interested, PM me.
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Originally Posted by Zumkopf View Post
Can't help you there, but could hook you up with a 1980 PFN-10E. Stone original except for the bar tape and the tires. [Either it has to go, or the PX-10 does, and I loves me those Nervex lugs.] Regardless of what the catalogs say, I've weighed both, and the PFN-10, at 23.75 lbs [58 cm frame], is a good half-pound lighter than the PX-10. If you're interested, PM me.
I appreciate the offer but I'm also sitting on a mid 1970 s pr 10 I need to rebuild. Gotta do something about that simplex dropout
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Looks like a solid bike. Good condition
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