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1986 Specialized Allez SE Showroom New Condition

Old 07-10-17, 11:34 PM
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1986 Specialized Allez SE Showroom New Condition

First post. Don't know why I waited so long to sign up. I bought this bike new to see if I would like road biking as much as I liked mountain biking. Well, long story short after about a hundred or so miles I parked it for 30 years. Always stored indoors and away from direct sunlight so no fading on the paint. It's completely original except for the bar tape and even that is like new. If anyone could give me an idea of it's value it would help me decide if I sell it or use it with a trainer during the winter. Thanks in advance.

Per a request I have added more photos including one that shows the serial number. One thing the photos dont show are some scratches on the seatpost from adjusting it up and down, but I'm not sure how I could have avoided that. I measured and the size is 56cm. Glad I did as I could have sworn it was a 54. I appreciate some of your opinions that say "Just keep it!" but I also have a 1991 Schwinn Paramount PDG 70 mountain bike all original in about the same condition. I'll be asking your guys opinions on that bike in another post soon. With seven bikes in all it seems I should sell SOMETHING. Thanks again for the input.
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Old 07-11-17, 01:00 AM
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We will need a full on drive side pic and close ups of most of the components, lugs, logos, s/n, any flaws and an accurate size. If this were in my size range, this would have been a PM.


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First post. Don't know why I waited so long to sign up. I bought this bike new to see if I would like road biking as much as I liked mountain biking. Well, long story short after about a hundred or so miles I parked it for 30 years. Always stored indoors and away from direct sunlight so no fading on the paint. It's completely original except for the bar tape and even that is like new. If anyone could give me an idea of it's value it would help me decide if I sell it or use it with a trainer during the winter. Thanks in advance.
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We will need a full on drive side pic and close ups of most of the components, lugs, logos, s/n, any flaws and an accurate size. If this were in my size range, this would have been a PM.
Thanks for responding. I'll try to get some more pictures tomorrow, weather permitting.
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Old 07-11-17, 03:29 AM
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I had the same bike.
In my opinion 500$.
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Old 07-11-17, 09:04 AM
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No problem, there may not be a ton of value here (although there should be imo) but these are great bikes with a lot of awesome history. If I were you I wouldn't even consider selling it, you should be riding it to bolster your fitness for the mt. biking since we are all getting younger by the day. Also relegating it to trainer duty is a great idea only if you protect it from the sweat which can really screw bikes up. Keep it and ride it.


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Thanks for responding. I'll try to get some more pictures tomorrow, weather permitting.
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Please don't make it into a captive trainer slave.....it's just too nice a bike to do that to....
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Old 07-11-17, 10:56 PM
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Theses bikes are emerging in wider reputation. Current market $500. I consider them a hold.
Three dermits for the Dalmatian bar tape.
Needs white.

I will get one one day.
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Originally Posted by repechage View Post
Theses bikes are emerging in wider reputation. Current market $500. I consider them a hold.
Three dermits for the Dalmatian bar tape.
Needs white.

I will get one one day.
Yeah, I'm kickin' myself for changing the bar tape. I think it came with shiney silver tape which I think is still available. I think I will change it back if I keep it. Keeping it all original seemed irrelevant decades ago but now I'm glad I did.
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When was the last time it was overhauled or would the buyer need to refresh the grease in the bearings themselves? Are the tires 30yo as well?
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Such a pretty bike. I'm running those brakes on my B'stone 1993 RB-1; they rock. Those superbe downtube shifters are pretty sweet as well.

$500 for a local sale is not a crazy price to ask but, depending on where you live, you have may difficulty in realizing that price. $300 plus is about right for a bike of this quality if it were a "generic" chrome moly bike with mainly superbe parts.

This bike is getting a bump up in price because of its provenance; these are well loved bikes. So you can get a higher dollar number but you need to find the right buyer. That may be an issue in a local sale. So to get the higher price, either go to eBay and ask for top dollar or sell on this site. We're mainly a bunch of cheapskates but someone on this site is likely to give you a good price on this bike.

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Old 07-12-17, 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Bianchigirll View Post
When was the last time it was overhauled or would the buyer need to refresh the grease in the bearings themselves? Are the tires 30yo as well?
Never overhauled. Original grease, tires, everything. It has never been rained on or even washed with a hose. It could use a new chain as there is a little surface rust on it. I plan to put a new one on whether I keep it or sell it. Wish I would have lubed it or even smeared grease on it before putting it in storage all those years ago. At least that is cheap and easy. Can any of you guys recommend a quality chain that won't break the bank? I rode it down the street a few weeks ago and everything seems to spin freely and the tires have been holding air ever since. Thanks for the reply.
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I am sure there are people here interested in such a bike.
And I am sure that old tires and overhauling is not an issue. Who ever will buy this bike will do himself the work and choose himself the tires and other parts which need replaced.
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I would say $450-500 as presented and $600-650 with new tires and brake pads serviced and ready to ride.
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That bike will sell in the C&V for sale forum but the OP will have to join ($10 a year I believe) and set a firm price. If the OP does not live in a large city, this is a good site to sell the bike. Less money than eBay but also less hassle and costs.
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I would say $450-500 as presented and $600-650 with new tires and brake pads serviced and ready to ride.
First of all I appreciate all of the terrific responses and input from all of you. As far as tires, brake pads and grease packing, I swear everything seems as good as a brand new bike. I pulled the chain off with the bike in the stand. When I spin the front and rear wheels both go for about a minute and a half. The crank will spin for about 8 Seconds. When I hold the Freewheel the back tire will spin for about 40 seconds. So maybe that could be a little better, I'm not sure. As far as the chain goes it has Suntour stamped on the nickel plated outer links and uses an alternating design on the inner links. It's really not as Rusty as I thought so I think I'm going to try and clean it up. Have any of you had luck with the white vinegar soak that I've read about? Thanks again to all.

Final question. Can anybody steer me to a photo of this bike out of a catalog or brochure? I would like to confirm what handlebar tape came on it originally.

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Some bad pictures of my bike.
Not sure if the bar tape is original, but it is the one on the bike when I bought it.
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Originally Posted by marius.suiram View Post
Some bad pictures of my bike.
Not sure if the bar tape is original, but it is the one on the bike when I bought it.
Thanks for your response. I do have one far away picture of my bike the way I bought it and it's definitely a light color tape. I think a sparkly silver, maybe white. Also curious about the OEM seat. I either have the correct one on now or that is one that came off of Stumpjumper from the same year.
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Originally Posted by milkdudd View Post
Can any of you guys recommend a quality chain that won't break the bank?
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Great looking Allez. I've watched these for a while and have learned that not all Allez were created equal. There were tubing differences over the years which could make it more or less valuable. Yours has horizontal rear dropouts which I prefer and have found harder to come by.

Not knowing anything else about it, I'm thinking $450-$500 as well. You'll need to be patient though. I've seen well used ones sit on CL at $150.
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A question....Didn't all SE's come with complete Suntour Superbe?
Op's bike has Royal's brakes.
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Originally Posted by xiaoman1 View Post
A question....Didn't all SE's come with complete Suntour Superbe?
Op's bike has Royal's brakes.
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Yes, these are rgc 400's that came on the bike when I bought it. I guess there's a small chance the dealer swapped them out before I bought it but I don't think so. I think they would have had to tell me if they did. That's another case where I wish I could find the original catalog from 1986 to see everything that was specified for this model. One place that they did economized was on the front derailleur which is a cyclone not superb.
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Where is the bike located?
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Where is the bike located?
In Metro Detroit. Please keep in mind however (as I stated in the first post) this thread was started to help me decide if I would sell it. Haven't really made a final decision yet.
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