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Old 07-11-17, 02:18 PM
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ID on a Cinelli

Hi, I am thinking of picking up this Cinelli. Anyone have any ideas about the year or model. It looks ok. Sorry for picture quality. Thanks for any help!

Pat

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Old 07-11-17, 03:25 PM
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Appears it may be an early 1960's Model B.

Readers would be able to give more information with some drive side and detail pictures.

Would expect the width of the frame's bottom bracket shell to be 74mm. They employed this size up through about 1967. One downside is that it makes finding replacement spindles a challenge.

Possible we may be looking at original paint. Orange was one of the "house colours."

BTW - the forum has had several discussion threads on the Cinelli Model B. If you wish you could use the search function to bring them up.

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Old 07-11-17, 04:44 PM
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Thanks very much for the response. I will try searching the forums now; just wasn't that sure what I was looking for.
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Old 07-11-17, 11:00 PM
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If anywhere reasonable in price and even more if close to the correct size, (top tube length makes these fit taller folk than you think) buy it. Period.
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Dontchajust love a Krypto lock hog-tied to your Cinelli?

Very pretty bike with some original parts. Get it.
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Old 07-12-17, 07:23 PM
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Yes, it's locked to the beautiful Brooks and there is no key! I'll have to cut it off.
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Old 07-12-17, 07:25 PM
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So I did buy it, after all the advice. Seems small, but I will post more pictures later (on a different thread, or here? Which is best?) and ask for more advice on how to refurbish it properly. I'm a novice!
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Old 07-12-17, 08:02 PM
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pictures of Cinelli

So here is a link to some photos of the Cinelli bike I bought. I know it needs a fair bit of work and is missing some original parts. I would be grateful for any advice on what I should do, or where I should start to restore this bike. I know it's a much loved brand and I would like to do it justice!

https://photos.app.goo.gl/vefjvxBLOyXRnKNC2


Let me know if it would be easier if I posted the pictures directly here.

Best

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Old 07-12-17, 08:08 PM
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Nice find. Great looking for its age.

Do you have tools?

If you're planning on taking it back to original equipment, the brakes (I think) should be Universal 61. It also looks like you have a newer derailleur set on it.

Take off all components and bag individually so you can keep track of what goes with what. You will need some special tools for the bottom bracket removal. Clean everything up and decide whether you want to put replacement decals on the frame.

There are a lot of threads on the C&V board of others doing the same thing you're getting ready to do. Look them over before you start and don't be afraid to ask questions.

I'm doing a '72 Cinelli S/C right now myself.

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Old 07-12-17, 08:13 PM
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There were some tools in the leather bag but I think for tires. Do you mean tools for a restoration?
Not really, but I've been looking up what I need to strip it down and clean it up. Any Cinelli specific advice appreciated!

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Nice find. Great looking for its age.

Do you have tools?
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Old 07-12-17, 08:21 PM
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I was in process of editing my last post.

You'll need a special tool to get the lock ring off the bottom bracket and a spanner to adjust it once you get everything all cleaned up and lubed.

Cone wrenches for the hubs as you'll want to tear them down and assess condition of bearings.

Evaporust I have heard works great on cleaning up old rusty parts like your crank.
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Hello again Pat,

Thank you for the photo album.

Appears only original fittings present are chainset, headset and stem/bar set. Other fittings newer than bicycle.

The forum has a member with an orange Model B machine they have been able to date as ~1958. You may wish to see their example.



Foto: CinelliModB-001 - Rennrad-News.de

Machine belongs to member @martl

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Old 07-13-17, 01:34 PM
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Thanks for all that. I like the approach of 'revitalization' taken on the bike above rather than attempting to restore every original part. His bike came out looking really good. Any suggestions on which non-original parts should be replaced appreciated. I will try and put up some better pictures soon!

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The newer images provided move back the possible date to "later '50's." Possible bicycle may be too early for the Universal 61 arrestor set mentioned. Original set may have been Extras.

Glaringly incorrect fittings:

wheels

brakeset

gear ensemble

pedals

Is bicycle's saddle pillar Nitor or is it a plain one?

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Old 07-13-17, 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by phiggins View Post
So here is a link to some photos of the Cinelli bike I bought. I know it needs a fair bit of work and is missing some original parts. I would be grateful for any advice on what I should do, or where I should start to restore this bike. I know it's a much loved brand and I would like to do it justice!

https://photos.app.goo.gl/vefjvxBLOyXRnKNC2


Let me know if it would be easier if I posted the pictures directly here.

Best

Pat
I think the main C&V forum gets more traffic than this appraisals forum does, so I recommend starting a new thread there. Embed a couple of photos (and link to your Google photo page), and you'll get more people involved.

I once had to rent an angle grinder from the local big box hardware store to cut off a kryptonite lock. Cuts thru VERY fast, so be careful. I now have a Dremel and some good cutting blades for hardened steel, so I'd probably try that if I were doing it again.

This looks like an exceptional find - congrats! Hope you can adjust it to make it fit, but if not, it'll make great trade bait.
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Old 07-14-17, 08:43 PM
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The saddle pillar is not Nitor. Seems like it's missing a lot of original parts, though understandable if you are pushing the dating back to the 1950s. If not Universal 61 brakes, what would you suggest are the originals. Very interesting! Love to hear opinions on what I should replace some of the parts with.

I will be careful when I try and remove the lock, thanks for the warning! I will probably repost on the main C&V forum as well with updated pictures. I'm so grateful for all the advice here- what a great community!

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Old 07-15-17, 06:38 AM
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Try Cinelli Only. An interesting site with several searchable Model B articles.
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Gonna give a big bump here to ask what we think about an all chrome headtube on this, seems very odd to me as it would likely be all chrome underneath if it were a SC and this one looks to me like a possible repaint but not likely all chrome. Another one of the many things that make me say "huh".
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Old 07-20-17, 08:41 PM
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I've posted a new thread with better pictures on this topic in the main forum. Thanks for all the great help and advice here and in PMs!

https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vi...l#post19734046
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