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Old 07-11-17, 03:07 PM
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Vintage Peugeot

I ran across this Peugeot last night and have been talking with the owner. Does anyone know what model it is? The owner does not and believes it may be a 1970 vintage, it looks older to me I do not know. I will be driving to the owners home later to view the bike in person.

All help is greatly appreciated

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Old 07-11-17, 03:19 PM
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This bike is sweet with 650b wheels. Someone will chime in with the model no. but I like it a lot.
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Old 07-11-17, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by bikemig View Post
This bike is sweet with 650b wheels. Someone will chime in with the model no. but I like it a lot.

I agree with you .. it's a 3 speed bike and according to the owner came with the 650b wheels
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Old 07-11-17, 03:31 PM
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MUCH earlier than 1970.

Is rear mech a Juy Rigidex?

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Old 07-11-17, 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by juvela View Post
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MUCH earlier than 1970.

Is rear mech a Juy Rigidex?

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I do not know nor does the owner who is advanced in years. They could only tell me it's all original and have owned the bike for many years. The wife told me the husband is to the age he can't ride anymore due to health issues.
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Old 07-11-17, 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by SamSpade1941 View Post
I do not know nor does the owner who is advanced in years. They could only tell me it's all original and have owned the bike for many years. The wife told me the husband is to the age he can't ride anymore due to health issues.
Thank you.

The shift levers, for example, did not launch until 1971 while the balance of the machine is quite a bit earlier.

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Ok here is the question I have. Is this bike worth $200 ?

Thanks much for all the assistance.
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I'd pay $200 for this bike given it's age and condition. I'd take @juvela's dating of much earlier than 1970 to the bank.

With bikes this old, there really isn't a heck of a lot of a market to gauge prices but the bottom line is that if you pass, you will not find another like it at a reasonable price in a local sale. I'd buy it, rebuild it, and take it to the local coffee shop on the weekends.
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The latest the machine could be is "1950's" - one would need to know more detail to estimate any closer than that.

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Old 07-11-17, 11:19 PM
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The bike looks like a PX50 in the 1960-62 French catalogs, but with a different handlebar.

(Catalog scan borrowed from bikeboompeugeot.com.)
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Old 07-12-17, 05:43 AM
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This same bike sold on Ebay for $750 in 2015. The photo you're showing is the same photo from the ebay ad, not a newer photo from a second seller. Also, there was another sale ad with the exact same bike on VeloFinds in March, 2015, with an ebay link embedded. Something's not right here. Since there's lots of C/L scams going on, I'd be careful if going to look at/buy this one.

The Velo Finds writeup showed: Vintage Peugeot PX -50 650-B (26 X 1-1/2) Commuter Bicycle
Up for auction is a Vintage Peugeot 650-B Commuter Bicycle. This is a European (French) model of Peugeot’s utility/commuter bicycle. The previous seller told me that it was a 1959 model year PX-50. It has the Randonneur-style brazed-on frame fittings and working generator light setup.
The frame is made of lugged steel tubing and measures 22-1/2 inches from CBB to top of seat tube. The frame and fork are straight and mostly in good condition. There are chips in the paint and decals, but the bike is in good condition for its age. The 650-B (26 X 1-1/2) Gumwall tires are in new condition.
The rear rack is attached to bosses brazed on to the seat stays and to the fenders. The front rack is mounted to the fork tube and fork fender eyelets. Both mounts result in a solid attachment.
The bike is set up as a three speed (freewheel) but the frame has the brazed-on front derailleur mount to add the front simplex lever-actuated shifter.
The only significant issues are that the previous owner had re-welded the right front cantilever brake mount and the paint around that part is damaged from the heat. (See photo). Additionally, the seat post is not original and may need to be shimmed or replaced. Finally, the internal fork lock and hinged fork lock cover are missing.
This is a grand and unique Peugeot bike that I purchased in pieces several years ago from a collector in France. This bike is not an original restoration; rather it is set up as a rider. This bike has been completely rebuilt and in sound mechanical condition.
Bicycle includes the following components:
Period Correct Simplex Rear Derailleur
C1970’s Simplex Rear Shift Lever
Nervar Steel Cottered Crankset
Single Front Steel Chain Ring
Mafac Guidonnet Flat Bar Brake Levers
Vintage Dia Compe Cantilever Brakes
Atom & Mallard French Small Flange Hubs
Period correct Samir-Saminox 650-B Chrome Steel Clincher Rims
Three Speed Freewheel
Brooks Spring Leather Saddle
Vintage French one-piece Steel City Bike Handlebars/Stem
Rat-Trap Pedals
Front and Rear Painted Racks w/ Brazed on Frame Fittings
Front and Rear Fenders
Working Front and Rear Generator-Powered Lights

I've got a mid-70's PX-50, and they're not common. I've seen fully-original ones go for between $175 and over $1000. I'd put a FMV at about a $250 limit.
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The rear derailleur is a Simplex Grande Tourisme. According to Berto, these were introduced in 1952. I don't know how long they were produced, but it was no longer catalogued by 1960. So, assuming it is OEM (and there is no reason to assume otherwise based on the dedicated, brazed-on mount) the bicycle should be 1950s.
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I would agree that it is a 1950's bike based on the components that look to be original it would have been made between 54-59. I would be skeptical of the add also since what appears to be the same bike has popped up in multiple places for below market value which I would but at $400-500.
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