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Old 08-02-17, 05:04 PM
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Shimano 600 Arabesque Group Value..?

The other day I bought a Norco Magnum SE, only to find a nasty dent in the down tube. Too bad, because I really liked the bike. Anyway, I salvaged the complete group and hope to offer it for sale. What do you think a fair price will be?

The Shimano 600 Arabesque group includes: front derailleur, rear derailleur, clamp on down tube shifters, crank/ring set, bottom bracket, hubs laced with stainless steel spokes to Araya 700c rims and fitted with near NOS tires/inner tubes, free hub cassette, drive chain, some small bits and pieces. I am also including the pedals, the Custom steering stem or I can supply an alternate and different reaches. The handlebars offered are SR and in great shape, just like the little used 600 group...















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There's a set of 600 Arabesque on the local CL here for $200 firm that's been sitting for quite a while. This is not a good vintage market (New Orleans), though, and your set is more complete. Ebay sold listings aren't much help.

Are you sure that the use of frame blocks won't save that frame?
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Hang onto it. I kept an old Ross (bought new in '79) and finally found a nice '83 Nishiki frame to hang the 600EX gear on. The stuff is really smooth and durable. I wouldn't let mine go for that price.
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Hang onto it. I kept an old Ross (bought new in '79) and finally found a nice '83 Nishiki frame to hang the 600EX gear on.
Actually, I have two of these sets set aside, but the one I am going to offer is the nicest and most complete, considering the wheel set, and all. As for installing the set one day, it is pretty doubtful as I lean towards much older road bicycles from the early seventies and older.

As for a nice group to use. I built and rode this lovely ALAN several years ago and it was fitted with a full Arabesque group...

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I'm a fan of the oft-maligned Arabesque group. Hung it on my Tempo and it performs wonderfully.

Your group is pretty much everything you need to build a bike. That can be good for some but for me, things like stem, bars and seatpost are typically something I source separately to fit.

Any value in the wheelset is often lessened by increased shipping cost. A buyer like me would be more interested in just the hubs with intent of using with specific rims I select for the build.

To a person looking for an Arabesque group, I think $125-$150. You could leave the rims, bars and stem out (but keep the hubs in) and the price stays the same. Maybe +$50 to a person that wants the entire lot as is.
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A buyer like me would be more interested in just the hubs with intent of using with specific rims I select for the build.
The other group I have is just as nice, cosmetically and mechanically, but does not come with the wheel set. The 600 hubs are included with that group.

Your group is pretty much everything you need to build a bike. That can be good for some but for me, things like stem, bars and seatpost are typically something I source separately to fit.
That would apply to me also, however; my intent was to throw in things like steering stem, bars and even a saddle, if the buyer wanted them. I also offer stem make and reach choices, handlebar choices and saddle choices at no extra cost.

As for the extra shipping cost for complete wheels, when I think how much the rims, stainless spokes, tires, inner tubes and liners would cost the average person, shipping would seem cheap, in comparison. Why do I say that..?

I recently built up a set of wheels for my Torpado. At the end of the day, (not counting the hubs) the spokes, tires and rim tape set me back close to three hundred dollars Canadian...



Anyway, I appreciate the value opinion. I was thinking of offering the complete group, wheels included, for $160.00 US or $140.00 US with hubs only. Probably will, later today, if time permits.
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Headset clearly not 600, too bad as those are desirable. Uniglide free hub which can be problematic. Good deal at the price mentioned. The BMX crowd likes those cranksets!

+10 Agree on wheels, particularly once they have stainless spokes.
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