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Old 08-11-17, 05:28 PM
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Bike worth?

hi. I'm new here and have been devouring the many pages here. Can anyone tell me of these bike which seems like the best value? I'm only 5ft 7 so these bikes are small.The first is a Super Grand Prix for $140 , owner raised the price today to $160
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Old 08-11-17, 05:30 PM
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Next is this one Motobecane Mirage 10 speed road bike for $9001010_4jxbwcxf6ZO_1200x900.jpg

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Old 08-11-17, 05:35 PM
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Last is this. Sekine for $70. Add says it is an 18 speeder
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...those first two look a little small for a 5' 7" adult with normal proportional leg and torso length. Are you certain on what your sizing is for a road bike ? If not, figure that out first.
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If you sure on size the first one is the nicest bike and the one I would likely buy. The moto will likely be too small and the Sekine is really low and and not a 18speed.
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I'm 5 ft 7 but my torso is somewhat longer than my stubby legs! I have a 30 inch inseam. Are any of the pictured bike's worth the money being asked? Or what would be a good offer? Just located a reasonably priced Puch in good condition too.
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If you sure on size the first one is the nicest bike and the one I would likely buy. The moto will likely be too small and the Sekine is really low and and not a 18speed.
I'm pretty close on the size however I do have to go see them.The first bike is a Raleigh Super Grand Prix and from what I have read is worth @ $50 to $75?
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The Super Grand Prix has 2040 hi-carbon steel tubing if memory serves, and actually a pretty nice ride for what it is. The Suntour bar-end shifters are a nice plus. I regularly buy bikes with them, remove the bar-ends and sell them separately at a swap for $50, then put some other shifters on the bike for resale. I agree with zukahn1, it's the nicest of the three, and roughly FMV. The Moto is probably 1020 hi-ten and while not a bad ride, a lower quality frame. The Sekine looks like it has the lowest-end parts of the three and would also be my last pick.
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I'm 5 ft 7 but my torso is somewhat longer than my stubby legs! I have a 30 inch inseam. Are any of the pictured bike's worth the money being asked? Or what would be a good offer? Just located a reasonably priced Puch in good condition too.
...if you have a knuckle dragger physique ( I do too), you're better off looking for stuff a little larger on the standover so that you can get additional length in the top tube. But if you're going with older stuff like this, lot's of times the top tube is longer anyway as a function of older geometry preferences.

If I were you I would look at some different bikes and take some measurements of them, stand over them, and try to figure out if I thought I could make them fit me before I spent any money.
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I'm pretty close on the size however I do have to go see them.The first bike is a Raleigh Super Grand Prix and from what I have read is worth @ $50 to $75?
...in the lower priced marketplace you are surveying, condition is very important, as is what it will cost to replace anything like tyres and maintenance and repairs that might not have been done for a long time.

Any bicycle in good mechanical condition that you won't have to by tyres, chain, brake blocks, pedals, or a saddle for is probably worth in the $125-$150 range unless it's a Schwinn Varsity or a Walmart bike.
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Another vote for the Super Grand Prix. It's a handsome bike.

All of these are different frame sizes though. The Sekine's largest, then the Raleigh, then the Moto is the smallest. If any are nearby, schedule a meeting to test ride and see what actually fits best. Even if you don't end up buying, you'll have more information to refine your search.

I'd be able to suggest alternatives if I knew what Craigslist area you were looking in.
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Another vote for the Super Grand Prix. It's a handsome bike.

All of these are different frame sizes though. The Sekine's largest, then the Raleigh, then the Moto is the smallest. If any are nearby, schedule a meeting to test ride and see what actually fits best. Even if you don't end up buying, you'll have more information to refine your search.

I'd be able to suggest alternatives if I knew what Craigslist area you were looking in.
Sorry about not getting back to you. I had some serious health issues (which have now been addressed ). I live in Clarion,PA. I'm kind of in between Erie and Pittsburgh. I actually went and looked at all three bikes. You guys were all right about those bikes, . They were too small for me and the Sekine was not a very nice bike. Unfortunately the Owner of the Raleigh must have raised his price every day and when I went to look at it I was really going to buy that one. I had $160 on me but he told me he had raised the price to $300 so I passed. Now that I am healthy again, I'm back to looking
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Take the time to learn how to tell a good bike from a not so good bike by looking through Vintage Bicycle Quality. Armed with that information, and knowing what size bike you want, will prepare you to make on the spot decisions when the opportunity arises. Often times, time wasted trying to decide, means the next guy or gal in line will buy the bike out from under you. Or, in your case, the owner will get a better idea of what his bike is worth, and the price will go up.

Once you have better understanding of what is good and what is not good, you might consider some of these How To Find Vintage Bicycles procedures. Using those simple ideas, hundreds of vintage bicycles have come my way, over the years.
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Take the time to learn how to tell a good bike from a not so good bike by looking through Vintage Bicycle Quality. Armed with that information, and knowing what size bike you want, will prepare you to make on the spot decisions when the opportunity arises. Often times, time wasted trying to decide, means the next guy or gal in line will buy the bike out from under you. Or, in your case, the owner will get a better idea of what his bike is worth, and the price will go up.

Once you have better understanding of what is good and what is not good, you might consider some of these How To Find Vintage Bicycles procedures. Using those simple ideas, hundreds of vintage bicycles have come my way, over the years.
Thank you for the links - Studying now! It's hard, at least for me, as sometimes the more I read the more questions I end up having. With that in mind I am going to look at a Raleigh Technium 440 this weekend.

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This is the bike. $50 so it's worth the look

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Originally Posted by randyjawa View Post
Take the time to learn how to tell a good bike from a not so good bike by looking through Vintage Bicycle Quality. Armed with that information, and knowing what size bike you want, will prepare you to make on the spot decisions when the opportunity arises. Often times, time wasted trying to decide, means the next guy or gal in line will buy the bike out from under you. Or, in your case, the owner will get a better idea of what his bike is worth, and the price will go up.

Once you have better understanding of what is good and what is not good, you might consider some of these How To Find Vintage Bicycles procedures. Using those simple ideas, hundreds of vintage bicycles have come my way, over the years.
Would it be ok for me to use some of your info in a thread I'm going to start on my Technium Restoration?
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This is the bike. $50 so it's worth the look
What! Great deal, Scott. I sold a 460 not long ago, and it was a really nice bike.
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Aubergine, thanks. I'm going to get this tonight. Then I'll start a thread on restoration, upgrades
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