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Is this a Peugeot PX-10

Old 08-21-17, 01:53 AM
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Is this a Peugeot PX-10

Hello, I have been restoring Peugeots and other vintage bikes for about a year now. I'm looking to buy my own personal bike and found this. It looks like it could be a PX-10 but that has been resprayed and with different brake calipers. Could anyone put in their two cents.
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Old 08-21-17, 04:48 AM
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I have been able to get more photos.
Wheelset: still unknown
Brake calipers: Universal 68
Brake levers: some shimano levers
Rear derailleur: Gimpiemme (looks like a simplex rebrand)
Front derailleur: unknown (doesn't look like simplex, probably italian)
cranks: unknown.
Dropouts do have markings on them, but I cant read if it says simplex or something else.

My only real concern is if the frame is correct and usable (since I see some rust in the pictures). I would like to get the chrome redone if possible and add complete stickers. I will restore it for myself with either 90s parts or go full original.
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Old 08-21-17, 05:58 AM
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Looks like a PX10 or a derivative of it, knowing that not all PX10 bikes are just PX10. Mine is a PX10E from 1973 and the quickest way to tell is the chrome plated fork socks and stays socks. You have already noticed that not all of the components are original issue. Nice bike but I believe you would be making a major mistake by repainting the bike. Why? Have a look at Should I Paint My Bicycle? That should help you to understand the reasons to keep the bike as original as one can.

My PX10E is one of my favorite bicycles...

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Old 08-21-17, 06:59 AM
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Thanks for your input. You have a fine bike there, very nice accents. Ok, that site is convincing for not painting the bike. I will have to figure out how to touch up the chrome though.

What are the other PX-10 derivitives? Are all of them quality enough for 90s-2000s components?
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Old 08-21-17, 07:20 AM
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Nice looking bike. Where are you and the bike? Manufacturers make different models for different markets so there are differences even between bikes sold in the US and Canada.

There area few threads on here about cleaning chrome, I would check those and just clean it real good. Re-chroming may be expensive and ruin the paint.
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Old 08-21-17, 08:05 AM
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It looks like it began life as an early seventies PX-10E. All of the braze-ons, save the chainstay stop, are additions. Wears very few of its original fittings; only the chainset and possbily rear mech from what can be seen in the photos. The mis-matched bottom end pedals should go.

It is a good quality bicycle which can give plenty of riding enjoyment but is very far from its original configuration, if you care about that.

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Old 08-21-17, 10:34 AM
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Okay, I'm gonna buy it then. I found this bike in the Netherlands where I am currently living.
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Agree about the rechroming most likely resulting in having the bike repainted.
But if the bike is really the one you want, it could be worth it.....
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Old 08-21-17, 03:26 PM
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Peugeot chrome has a very heavy clear coat. To my eye, a lot of what I'm seeing is yellowed or dirty clear coat. If its still has the clear I'd strip it off and polish the chrome. Unlikely it needs re-chroming.
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Peugeot chrome has a very heavy clear coat. To my eye, a lot of what I'm seeing is yellowed or dirty clear coat. If its still has the clear I'd strip it off and polish the chrome. Unlikely it needs re-chroming.
I agree 100%. The chrome on the OP's bike appears to be in better shape than mine did and look how mine turned out. As for re-playing, that will cost a great deal and you will have to repaint, redecal and get a second job to pay for it all(joking about the last part, of course).
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Originally Posted by juvela View Post
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It looks like it began life as an early seventies PX-10E. All of the braze-ons, save the chainstay stop, are additions. Wears very few of its original fittings; only the chainset and possbily rear mech from what can be seen in the photos. The mis-matched bottom end pedals should go.

It is a good quality bicycle which can give plenty of riding enjoyment but is very far from its original configuration, if you care about that.

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Peugeot chrome has a very heavy clear coat. To my eye, a lot of what I'm seeing is yellowed or dirty clear coat. If its still has the clear I'd strip it off and polish the chrome. Unlikely it needs re-chroming.
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I agree 100%. The chrome on the OP's bike appears to be in better shape than mine did and look how mine turned out. As for re-playing, that will cost a great deal and you will have to repaint, redecal and get a second job to pay for it all(joking about the last part, of course).
...I don't know if it's clear to you from the above (all of which appear true to me). But the addition of those other braze-ons (for stuff like the brake cable routing, etc) required one repaint on this bike already.

Someone did a pretty nice job, and put new transfers on it as well. The paint and chrome as they sit do not look bad to me. But if you are interested in originality, this is probably the wrong bike for you.


Repainting it again will be a great deal of work and expense, in order to get back to the original (most likely)color scheme of black and white. Besides, that's a nice blue color.
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Agree with most of the above. If the blue paint job is holding up (and it looks like it) then don't mess with it. Original PX-10s can be found, and yours is pretty neat the way it is.

Just ride it!
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Fwiw, the original or period correct parts work very well. I would not go modern; at most I would add a cog or two on the rear wheel in place of the five speed.
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Thanks for the replies. I hope the chrome damage is limited to the clearcoat! Sorry for my lack of knowledge (ESL here) but what are the bike transfers that you speak of 3alarmer?

As for the period correct parts I'm sure I could locate them. What do you guys think about newish wheels? I plan to use this bike every day around town and also for day trips (about 60 mile/100k trips).
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...what are the bike transfers that you speak of...
Decals.
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What do you guys think about newish wheels? I plan to use this bike every day around town and also for day trips (about 60 mile/100k trips).
...for a bike you plan to use a lot (like this), you want either older wheels that have been very well reconditioned (hubs serviced, spoke tensions balanced, spoke tensions pulled up pretty tight, trued and round with no flat spots), or newer wheels you or someone skilled at it has built for this purpose.

For a utility, around town bike, try something upon which you can mount a relatively wide tyre, like a 700x28.

With a PX-10 of this vintage, there's usually plenty of room to do so.
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Very nice bike, although not original, very nice PX10's are ranging from 500-1200 even with original paint.

Also, what you may want to do in the future, if you do get the urge to repray, is just do the lugs. The blue frames came with black or Yellow lugs. Even just outlining the lugs would make this look nice, actually yellow lugs would look great on this bike.

Here is a beautiful example I found

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Old 08-24-17, 02:09 AM
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Update. I went to go see the bike. I decided not to purchase it based on the fact that the bike was not the size advertised and that the wheels were different and the serial number only had 5 digits. Also the chrome looked fake but the repainted blue paint was very high quality. Also the reynolds stickers were in English which from what I understand is not correct.
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