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Old 08-21-17, 01:12 PM
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Bianchi Limited SL Argentin

Checking this out later today, even though good lawd I don't need another bike.

It's around a 1987 or 1988 Limited SL model with the rare Argentin black/celeste colorway. For a moment I thought it was a Specialissima X-4 and frantically did research. These are rare, but a BF member shared pictures of one he got from Yellow Jersey brand new back in '88. It's probably mostly the Bianchi Superset II with whatever Columbus stuff they had laying around as main tubes

https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vi...l#post10764459

Full Shimano 600 from the looks of it. Seller says there are broken spokes, so I'm inclined to think the wheelset is toast.

What value would you put on it, assuming minimal rust and functional group (minus wheels)?

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Old 08-21-17, 04:30 PM
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Paging @Bianchigirll
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Old 08-21-17, 05:34 PM
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I believe these area mid year rework of the Trofeo model or maybe a Canadian model. The catalog shows this pain scheme only on the '88 Trofeo but that was festooned with Suntour Sprint, Modolo and Ofmega gear. The decal style would certainly indicate a '88 model.

I had an '88 Trofeo in that color with the Formula 2 tubeset and it was a great rider.
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Old 08-21-17, 05:41 PM
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This is a frankenbike and/or repaint. The Bianchi graphics are 1988-1989 but I see what appears to be Formula tubeset decals, which points to 1988. However, a 1988 Limited would have been equipped with 600 Ultegra, while this has slightly older New 600EX from 1986-1987.
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Originally Posted by T-Mar View Post
This is a frankenbike and/or repaint. The Bianchi graphics are 1988-1989 but I see what appears to be Formula tubeset decals, which points to 1988. However, a 1988 Limited would have been equipped with 600 Ultegra, while this has slightly older New 600EX from 1986-1987.
Thanks @T-Mar. But are we sure it's a repaint?

Forum member @ungowa supposedly purchased an identical model at Yellow Jersey. I spent a good 10 mins doing a detailed side-by-side comparison and everything matches the one I am looking at this afternoon.



The generational difference on the Shimano 600 is interesting.

Could it be an 88 frame that they dropped a leftover group onto?

Any clues as to which serial number ranges would be helpful are welcome

Thanks for chiming in, too @Bianchigirll. The Limited SL does look very similar to the Trofeo, and I'm digging the color scheme here (unless it's a rattle can job -- which I can't confirm from the pictures).
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Old 08-21-17, 10:25 PM
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Picked up the bike. I'm fairly sure it's not a repaint.

Serial number is 5258 7F, so I'm assuming it was built in 1987 but not marketed until 1988. This would match up with what the previous owner of the same model reported.

Again, the entire bike matches the image and description @ungowa gave. Ambrosio/600 wheels, full 600 throughout.



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The frame is definitely manufactured in 1987 but it's much earlier than typical for a 1988 model. Still, it's possible that Bianchi was building and stockpiling frames a couple of months in advance of normal.

The interesting thing is that it is Italian built. We know the 1987 Limited was built in Italy using Columbus Formula tubing, whereas the 1988 version was built in Japan using Tange. Curiously, neither sampleof the Argentin Limited sports a Campione del Mondo decal. The 1987 models used the rectangular version while the 1988 models have the round version.

So, the frame's country of origin, manufacturing date, tubing type and components all add up to a 1987 model. The only discrepancy is the graphics, which is 1988 style. Even if we assume that Bianchi introduced these part way through 1987, it is still very strange, given that it is a Argentin commemorative edition, that it does not have the the CdM decal to celebrate the victory.
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I still say it some sort of mid year model change introduction Maybe Bianchi pushed them out sometime in '87 to take advantage of the Argintine victory. Since the '87 catalog was set when he won they didn't have a chance to change a model, so this was the next best thing.
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Yep, I think you both are correct in most of your assumptions.

Frame made in '87 in Italy, '88+ decals, missing the CdM decal.

I'll reach out to Yellow Jersey and see if they have any other info.

Thanks @T-Mar and @Bianchigirll !
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Originally Posted by Bianchigirll View Post
I still say it some sort of mid year model change introduction Maybe Bianchi pushed them out sometime in '87 to take advantage of the Argintine victory. Since the '87 catalog was set when he won they didn't have a chance to change a model, so this was the next best thing.
But the 1987 catalogue wasn't set at the time of Argentin's victory. If you look at the catalogue, most of the models bear the 1986-1987 CdM decal. The development time for a decal would be a lot longer than taking a stock Limited and painting the stays and forks black for a catalog photo. This is such an easy change, that here would be no excuse not to have it out for the 1987 catalogue and beginning of 1987 model year manufacturing.
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As far as value goes if you really want the bike and everything except the wheels works good and will clean up nice I would say $300-350. Hard to tell from the pics but since the rims are nice black not much brake were or major looking scuffs, there's a very good chance those wheels can be partially rebuilt and used.
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As far as value goes if you really want the bike and everything except the wheels works good and will clean up nice I would say $300-350. Hard to tell from the pics but since the rims are nice black not much brake were or major looking scuffs, there's a very good chance those wheels can be partially rebuilt and used.
Nice. I did well then.

The rear wheel has about 5 popped spokes, and has been in the salty air here unridden for about 20 years. You're right though, the brake surfaces have very little wear. Might see if I can have them rebuilt.

There's some rust under the paint that was hard to see at first, so it may be headed to the oxalic acid bath queue.
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I came across one but the seller wouldn't take less than 400.00

300 is a great price in Los Angeles considering the stock of low to mid level bikes.
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