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46cm Miyata 710 1986

Old 08-22-17, 10:56 AM
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46cm Miyata 710 1986

Bought this for my girlfriend, thinking it was a 50cm. Bike came in a bare box and the fork was tweaked in shipping and it's getting trued at Uptown bikes this week. Minimal bend but I want to be upfront, should be an "as good as new" repair.

So when it gets back we're going to try to get it fitted to my GF who's 5'2". I'm pretty sure it'll be too small unless she suddenly decides she'd like a 3" seat to bar drop, so I wanted to get a feel for the value of an all Chromo triple butted frame and Chromo forked Miyata in a hard to find size.

It came with a mix of Shimano 105 and Alivio touring components, and I'm installing a Cyclone groupo I have to bring it back to original specs.

Condition is good to very good once the fork is aligned, some scrapes and scratches, no dents or dings.

No pictures yet, sorry.
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So it would have a full Cyclone group on it when you go to sell?...or would you swap back to the Shimano setup it currently has?
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Old 08-23-17, 11:32 PM
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I'd sell it with the Cyclone MII components, the Shimano running gear is going on my '86 Cannondale ST600 frame. The ST600 came with Shimano 600 FD and one shift lever, so I'm using that and adding the Shimano 105 triple and cranks to it.

The Cyclone II stuff came off an old Nishiki international frame that was about 19", so the cranks on it were 165mm and fit the small 710 frame a lot better than the 105's, which have 170mm cranks.

I'm debating just getting rid of the bare frame too, and using the parts for a build for the GF.
This is all just speculation too, with a tallish seat post and steering stem it might work for her. The top tube is probably the correct length since they get disproportionately longer as the frame size gets smaller.

I have two of these, a 60cm '85 710 I use as a comfy French fit with 700x28mm tires, and an '86 57cm I've got set up with a pretty aggressive saddle to bar drop and 700x25's. I use that as my "can I get to work in under a half hour?" bike. They're awesome riders, and in Chicago I think the FMV is about $300-350.

I know it's hard to find vintage bikes under 50cm and especially hard to find high-ish end bikes. I want to know how a 46cm frame affects the value. And I know the 710 is really a middle of the line up model, but for me they're perfect. Stepping up to the 912 means loosing a lot of tire clearence, and forget fenders on anything over 23mm. I love the ride and quality of Miyata's but if I'm looking for a real racy bike there are lighter and tighter bikes to be had. But for my use as an aggressive and reliable (and strong) commuter, it's ideal.
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Depending on actu damage and how well its repaired, as well as how many scrapes there are on the frame...
$50-150 for a frame and fork price.

Thats a small frame and limits the potential pool, but it also means those who do want it mkght be willing to pay a bit more since there are so few options available.
I come across this a lot on the opposite skde kf things since i ride 63-65cm frames. Same issue of supply/demand and price. If someone happens to be looking when you happen to sell, you can get more $ than typical.

...and depending on top tube length, i may be interested in the frame if it doesn't work out...just sayin.
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I would try the fit first. Im assuming it has a terry style 24" front wheel. At 5 ft 2" it may work out quite well.
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I got a call saying they straightened the fork blades and it's usable, but not "right". There is further bending in the steering tube, so a proper fix will need a replacement fork. sigh.
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What does the dt look like? If the steer tube is bent/downtube must have taken a shock. Too bad/but parts is parts! Not total loss.
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What does the dt look like? If the steer tube is bent/downtube must have taken a shock. Too bad/but parts is parts! Not total loss.
Quick update:
Downtube is fine, no damage, the fork was bent in shipping so it could have been pressed out of alignment, as opposed to struck.
I found a take off aluminum fork from a 90's GT Rage, its aluminum but the hope is that the steal frame will tame any hand shock. It will do for now, and let Diana ride the bike and see if it will work.
I'm building it up with Cyclone, to bring it back to spec, she's stood over it, adjusted the saddle, it just might work out.
Pictures when the build is complete.
Oh! And the shop I frequent has three short stature techs and they all perked up when I mention a possible flip if it didn't fit, so I'll be able to recoup any lost funds. It really is a sweet little bike, and the bare aluminum fork looks great with the grey head tube. I wanted to make sure the replacement fork worked with the overall bike and I'm very happy with the cosmetics.
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Holy cow! This bike has been Diana’s go fast ride for a year! She calls it her “bullet bike” because of the way she feels in a full tuck. I’m going to HAVE to figure out pictures soon, is there a tutorial somewhere?
I remember how crushed I was when this came in all smushed up, but rebuilding it up was VERY satisfying, and the bike is even lighter than stock!
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Originally Posted by Chr0m0ly View Post
Holy cow! This bike has been Diana’s go fast ride for a year! She calls it her “bullet bike” because of the way she feels in a full tuck. I’m going to HAVE to figure out pictures soon, is there a tutorial somewhere?
I remember how crushed I was when this came in all smushed up, but rebuilding it up was VERY satisfying, and the bike is even lighter than stock!
Awesome update, glad it worked out.

Its amazing how if you just use a bike you get good times and your money's worth many times over.
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Awesome, I used to ride one also. They are fast and climb well.
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While not common now higher end steel frames with upgraded alloy or carbon forks were somewhat common in the 90's they make for a great ride quality exspecially on smaller frames. Nice update.
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Glad the bike worked out for you & your girlfriend. Hope she gets many years of use out of it.
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