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Old 08-22-17, 02:30 PM
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Help Pricing an older De Rosa

I am attempting to sell an older 58cm De Rosa and need some help on pricing...It has been repainted by Ted Wojcik here in New Hampshire. The original owner replaced the fork with one off of Merckx before the repaint. I have narrowed the year down to probably 81 or 82 because of the single water bottle mount. Any help would be greatly appreciated.










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Old 08-22-17, 02:41 PM
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This will likely be moved to appraisals soon. This one is tough...I wouldn't go near it with a non-original fork and repaint. I'd assume something bad happened. Parts are in blahhh condition from what I can see. I think it has parts value and not much more to be honest. It wouldn't to me anyway. No way I'd go over $300. I think the fork likely has more value on its own.

Curious to see how others appraise, but I'd stay away personally.
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Yeah I agree with Aaron, I think the value takes a huge hit with the repaint and non-original fork. I dunno. Probably best to part it out.
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Old 08-22-17, 03:59 PM
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I'd sell the frame and fork separate.

The parts look more dirty than worn, some elbow grease will do wonders.

Parted out, I would say you may get $1k on eBay, maybe more. It will take some work.
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Originally Posted by jiangshi View Post
I'd sell the frame and fork separate.

The parts look more dirty than worn, some elbow grease will do wonders.

Parted out, I would say you may get $1k on eBay, maybe more. It will take some work.
I definitely agree with you in principle, but I wouldn't sell that frame without having a shop look at it. I'm having a hard time coming up with a reason for changing out from a steel fork to a steel fork, and part of what makes de Rosas special is the fork being specific to that frame.

So maybe 500 in parts - and I think they're a bit rougher, with gouges, and 150 for the fork? Together I don't think it's getting 400, so that's still how to go.
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Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake View Post
I definitely agree with you in principle, but I wouldn't sell that frame without having a shop look at it. I'm having a hard time coming up with a reason for changing out from a steel fork to a steel fork, and part of what makes de Rosas special is the fork being specific to that frame.

So maybe 500 in parts - and I think they're a bit rougher, with gouges, and 150 for the fork? Together I don't think it's getting 400, so that's still how to go.
I agree with you as far as replacing one steel fork with another. It doesn't make sense. Chances are the Merckx fork. Is close to the DeRosa fork, geometry wise. Emerge fork, even repainted, it's probably worth a couple hundred dollars. The DeRosa frame without a fork is probably worth $400 or more, if it's not damaged. I would think that the parts I could probably bring another $400 with some elbow grease, some polishing, and maybe some time on the buffing wheel.

That being said, I would pay maybe $300 for it as is, with the intention of tripling my money on resale
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Originally Posted by jiangshi View Post
I agree with you as far as replacing one steel fork with another. It doesn't make sense. Chances are the Merckx fork. Is close to the DeRosa fork, geometry wise. Emerge fork, even repainted, it's probably worth a couple hundred dollars. The DeRosa frame without a fork is probably worth $400 or more, if it's not damaged. I would think that the parts I could probably bring another $400 with some elbow grease, some polishing, and maybe some time on the buffing wheel.

That being said, I would pay maybe $300 for it as is, with the intention of tripling my money on resale
I am trying to move it for a friend. The frame has been inspected by Ted Wojick here in New Hampshire who painted it. It is in perfect shape. Only reason it was painted was to match the fork. Ted spec'd the fork to match the geometry of the frame. Honestly, can't remember why he changed the fork. He rode it like this up until just last year.
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Originally Posted by jiangshi View Post
I agree with you as far as replacing one steel fork with another. It doesn't make sense. Chances are the Merckx fork. Is close to the DeRosa fork, geometry wise. Emerge fork, even repainted, it's probably worth a couple hundred dollars. The DeRosa frame without a fork is probably worth $400 or more, if it's not damaged. I would think that the parts I could probably bring another $400 with some elbow grease, some polishing, and maybe some time on the buffing wheel.

That being said, I would pay maybe $300 for it as is, with the intention of tripling my money on resale
If everything checks out...and I'd want to call the builder myself...I think you're about right. Higher than I'd go, but there's probably someone who'd want it with a CF fork.
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It really is a beautiful re-finish job -- I'm afraid the fellas might be right about the value hit due to the mis matched fork (sheesh - not sure about $300 though - that's selling it a bit short) --- one of the cool things about those old DeRosas was the flat crown fork many of them had

It sounds sacrilegious but were it mine, i'd have to put a carbon fork on there and treat it to a "resto-mod" type build -- it would be hard to find an original flat crown DeRosa fork
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Old 08-22-17, 09:49 PM
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400 as a starter bike is great. Its hard to find a nice bike for less than 450.00. Anymore than that your better just saving up for an all original De Rosa.

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Strange, the PO had to force the EM fork on to the frame. It would have been better off just using one if those generic Columbus forks instead, if the proper De Rosa fork cannot be found. Having two different top line branding on the bike could border on blasphemy for C&V De Rosa or Mercx fans...... Plus, a Belgian fork on an Italian bike??
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Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake View Post
I definitely agree with you in principle, but I wouldn't sell that frame without having a shop look at it. I'm having a hard time coming up with a reason for changing out from a steel fork to a steel fork, and part of what makes de Rosas special is the fork being specific to that frame.

So maybe 500 in parts - and I think they're a bit rougher, with gouges, and 150 for the fork? Together I don't think it's getting 400, so that's still how to go.
+1. Without the original fork it makes me wonder.

I could easily part that out for $6-700 but its a lot of work. A lot. And for what kind of ROI? This isn't 5 years ago. ROI is down the drain on bikes like this.
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