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Old 08-26-17, 04:48 PM
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Fair price for this Peugeot?

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new to bikes and this forum here, but my eye caught this Peugeot on craigslist. It looks like a uo-8, and from what I gather online, it's a low-end model from Peugeot's lineup. The seller's asking $150 for it. Is it worth it?
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Old 08-26-17, 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by philpeugeot View Post
The seller's asking $150 for it. Is it worth it?
IMO, no. If you want opinions from others ask here. Classic and Vintage Bicycles: Whats it Worth? Appraisals and Inquiries - Bike Forums

Also welcome and congrats on posting photos as a newbie. Others struggle with that, a lot.
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Old 08-26-17, 05:20 PM
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Not worth it. Worth maybe $100 in absolutely perfect condition. And it's a pretty small bike. Whatever you buy, buy a bike that fits.
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Old 08-26-17, 05:55 PM
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Here's one of the pitfalls for older French bikes. I bolded the most important part. This was written by the late Sheldon Brown of Harris Cyclery:
French Bicycles

French bicycles are often of very high quality, but they have their own idiosyncracies and interchangeability problems. This article tries to point out the pitfalls that you may run into in maintaining or upgrading a French bicycle, and offers solutions to common problems.
In the great bike boom of the early-mid '70's, French bicycles were sold in the U.S. in very large numbers, mostly low-end ten speeds with mild steel frames, steel rims and cottered cranks. These low-end models are generally not worth putting any money into, unless you have a strong sentimental attachment to one. Such a bike can be suitable for use as a "beater" to ride short distances, perhaps to the train station where you can lock it up without worrying about theft.
[A note from John Allen: I think that Sheldon overgeneralizes here. Some of the low-end models make for a very nice ride if customized with better components. I'm not the only cyclist who praises the excellent handling qualities of the UO-8, Peugeot's bottom-of-the-line 1970s 10-speed. There are probably other low-grade French bicycles as good. The UO-8 frame has unusually long chainstays, for ample heel clearance when carrying rear panniers. The plain-gauge steel frame tubing is a bit heavier than fancier butted tubing, but the added stiffness is welcome when carrying a touring load, and plain-gauge tubing doesn't dent easily like thin-walled butted tubing. A UO-8 is my favorite touring bike. So there!]
Higher quality French bicycles, with cotterless cranks and aluminum rims are usually worth restoring or upgrading. These bicycles are also often a good choice for conversion for fixed-gear use. Unfortunately, some of the dimensions and thread standards used on older French bicycles can make it difficult to find suitable parts for repair or upgrading.

I hadn't thought of this in the past. I formerly owned a top-of-the-line 1973 Motobecane Le Champion but never had to replace any of the French threaded components on it.
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Old 08-26-17, 06:06 PM
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Oh, wow. I feel like I dodged a bullet there. Thanks for the advice, will probably look into some tatty Shogun Hi-ten or Schwinn super sport.

And yes, I am very short; 5 feet 3 inches so finding a bicycle to fit my tiny frame is very difficult.
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Old 08-26-17, 06:07 PM
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That is not a bike to ride, it is a bike to keep. It was likely around $200 new. I think as a collector item - $150 is fair. Not as a riding bike.
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Fair price for a Peugeot is an oxymoron.
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Fair price for a Peugeot is an oxymoron.
I've owned 3. 504, 504 Diesel wagon, 405 S. Love driving them.
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I've owned 3. 504, 504 Diesel wagon, 405 S. Love driving them.
Wait, Peugeot makes cars too? Who knew?
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Originally Posted by philpeugeot View Post
Oh, wow. I feel like I dodged a bullet there. Thanks for the advice, will probably look into some tatty Shogun Hi-ten or Schwinn super sport.

And yes, I am very short; 5 feet 3 inches so finding a bicycle to fit my tiny frame is very difficult.
Are you specifically looking for low end steel? It's easy to find dirt cheap frames that are at least double butted cromo. I have a nice Panasonic 1000 frame waiting for me to do something with, but it's 58cm.
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Wait, Peugeot makes cars too? Who knew?
Yes, Peugeot is regarded as one of the oldest car manufacturers in the world, second to Mercedes, I believe.

Grainbrain: not really looking for a full on project here, trying to find something that is complete and needs a little work. I'm in college, and need some decent commuter bike. Thanks for the offer.
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Originally Posted by philpeugeot View Post
Yes, Peugeot is regarded as one of the oldest car manufacturers in the world, second to
I KNEW that.
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Originally Posted by philpeugeot View Post
Yes, Peugeot is regarded as one of the oldest car manufacturers in the world, second to Mercedes, I believe.

Grainbrain: not really looking for a full on project here, trying to find something that is complete and needs a little work. I'm in college, and need some decent commuter bike. Thanks for the offer.
Buy someones old college bike.
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My first "good" 10 speed was a Peugeot UO 8. Bought it new in the box from my LBS for about $80 back in 1972 or 3. Nice bike but not worth $150. That looks to be a 19" frame.
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Ok, I gotta call baloney on the people who don't consider a UO-8 a good bike.

I have a mid-70s AO-8 (a UO-8 without chrome on the forks) and it has turned out to be a superb bike once you make two modifications: aluminum rims for the wheels, and Better derailleurs. With these modifications, the bike has a ride that is almost the equal of my custom touring bike. (It is a little bit more rough on harsh roads, and the frame flexes bit when carrying a heavy load over 20 mph.)

The advertised bike has the improved derailleurs, but still has old steel rims. I agree it is overpriced, but only by about 50-60 bucks. I'd get it, rebuild the original hubs with new spokes and 700c alu rims, and ride the heck out of it.
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make the seller an offer, $75.00,

only because it's old and cool in that way, and reminds me of When Greg Lemond won the tour and these bikes filled the rack at my high-school
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OP - That bike has a cottered crank. You pound a piece of soft metal in to hole the crank on. It would be hard to find cotter pins at many local bike shops.
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Maybe $125 for a newbie. If you do your own work, you want to pay $50 tops. Japanese bikes from the 1980s offer the best value and ride quality. However, my 1970s French Motobecane just might beat them out. BTW, the paint is a little rough on that UO-8. The chrome may also have some issues.

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Ok, I gotta call baloney on the people who don't consider a UO-8 a good bike.
Absolutely! Though not high end, or exotic, the Peugeot UO8 was a fine bike, offering near legendary ride quality, for something that is of entry level quality.

There are component issues, regarding what will fit a French bicycle, but nothing that I have found to be insurmountable. That said, for someone new to the interest in vintage bicycles and/or for someone seeking a regular rider, I would look elsewhere.

As for price, a hundred bucks would be the most that I would pay and only if I could ride the bike before buying it. If I could not ride the bike, then $50 to $75 is all that I would offer. If the bike was in perfect condition, then the price would go up accordingly. For a perfect Peugeot of that vintage, $200.00 would not be unreasonable, in my opinion.
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In Portlandia, $150 is FMV.
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I've seen PX10's for 375 that are in the same condition. I would offer 50.00, remembering consumables will run you under 120.00 (2 tires/tubes) tune up at local bike store.
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In Portlandia, $150 is FMV.
Yeah $150 is more than I'd want to pay but I don't think this is a crazy price in Portlandia particularly given the upgrades. This bike has better derailleurs and shifters than came on the bike originally. And it looks like the wheels have been replaced. Hard to tell from the pics but these look like aluminum rims. This is a very solid commuter/grocer getter that can take a fat tire and fenders.
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Hard to tell from the pics but these look like aluminum rims. This is a very solid commuter/grocer getter that can take a fat tire and fenders.
now that you mention it, the rims are different. The front has dimpled braking surface, and I've only seen that on AL rims. The back looks like the original steel one though, with steel spoke protecting disc, no?
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I think these are better values.

Trek - $175 (Hillsboro)

https://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/...279049427.html



Panasonic DX-2000 - $120 (McMinnville)

https://portland.craigslist.org/yam/...280713146.html



NISHIKI Olympic 12 - $150 (N PORTLAND)

https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/...248938744.html

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