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Old 09-01-17, 10:06 PM
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Capo Value

I am picking up a Capo road bike this weekend. Looks to be an all orginal Capo Modell Campagnolo right below the Siger model. Looks to be Reynolds 531 with a Stronglight Crank. I would say in poor to fair condition but certainly has lots of potential, or as expected for a 1960's bike. What value would this fall in.

Capo full bike by rick bog, on Flickr

Capo seat tube b[url=https://www.flickr.com/photos/157127985@N07/] on Flickr
Capo front by , on Flickr

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Old 09-02-17, 02:22 PM
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Pictures finally updated, looks like the headset is " Falcon " never heard of it before.
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Thanks for replacing the earlier sample image with these pcitures of the actual machine.

According to our resident expert there were three models brought in at this time, 1960-61, and this would be the middle one. The top model had the distinctive ziggurat crown and was called Sieger, rather than Siger. I owned a base model frame with this same colour scheme as your cycle.

Hubs look to be Atom.

Appears there is a word ending in Y marked on adjustable head race. Are you able to read it?

Will look forward to reading the observations of the experts.







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Sieger!, that's the correct name, thank you. I thought it looked off when I typed it. I'll have a few more pictures hopefully at end of day. On the race an L follows the Y.
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Thank you for the response.

In the photo the letter L appears to precede the letter Y. Is that all there is, the two letters and not a word at that spot in the circumference? I can see the word FALCON in the photo.

Hubs look to be mismatched while rims appear to be the same. Perhaps it came this way from the factory. Rear hub looks to be one-piece alloy and front hub looks to be five-piece steel and alloy.

Are dropouts stamped AGRATI?

Are wheel rims marked MACCARI Made in Italy?

There appears to be a bike shop transfer at the base of the seat tube. Is it from a shop in Southern California?

You mentioned the condition. I would think it most excellent for a cycle which is fifty-seven.

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When I intiially saw the bike it was through my Iphone. Looking at the picutres on the lap top, the bike actually looks in very nice condition. The crank is a Stronglight cottered. As far as Falcon, yes that is correct and I assumed the word RAL"LY" was wrapped on the other side, since I could only make out the L and Y.


R. Deraileur is a grand sport. Im not able to get any more pictures from the seller, hopefully he can detail me before I make the drive.
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From the looks of a lot of chrome done at that time on many bikes, they seem to have only planned on having it look good enough to last on the bike just long enough to get it to the customer when brand new....
So the chrome's patina you see on this Capo is quite typical, almost expected....
Paint quality was similar, but I guess it wasn't unusual when a lot of economies in Europe back then, were still struggling to completely recover from the ravages of the last big war, so budgets for improving QA/QC were still challenged at best.....
We were later spoiled by much better, more durable product finishing technologies that came out in the 80's.....but I guess we still manage to complain about so called "quick release" paint and chrome that still managed to come out of countries like Italy in the 80's.........
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Originally Posted by Chombi1
From the looks of a lot of chrome done at that time on many bikes, they seem to have only planned on having it look good enough to last on the bike just long enough to get it to the customer when brand new....
So the chrome's patina you see on this Capo is quite typical, almost expected....
Paint quality was similar, but I guess it wasn't unusual when a lot of economies in Europe back then, were still struggling to completely recover from the ravages of the last big war, so budgets for improving QA/QC were still challenged at best.....
We were later spoiled by much better, more durable product finishing technologies that came out in the 80's.....but I guess we still manage to complain about so called "quick release" paint and chrome that still managed to come out of countries like Italy in the 80's.........

Excellent point, one forgets about the status of the economy at the time.
FYI, seller is asking 400.00 for the bike.
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Price sounds at or above the maximum achievable with a classified advert. Seller not going to have folks beating down the door in an endeavour to be first...

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Originally Posted by juvela
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Price sounds at or above the maximum achievable with a classified advert. Seller not going to have folks beating down the door in an endeavour to be first...

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Very good to know, he is negotiable. But good to know.
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Value mostly in frameset. Fittings of moderate value only. Steel rimmed wheelset pretty much a discard item.

Headset - the fourth character of "FALCON" is not a C but rather a G. One possibility for the indecipherable markings is that Otto got a batch of these headsets at a bargain price because they were ordered with the name of a bicycle on them and then the customer defaulted.

Quite a different bike from this Capo Campagnolo we had in 2014:

https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vi...correctly.html

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I saw then frame and I have never came across another Capo, so this one sparked some interest. Rims will need to be replaced.
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You are not likely to find another bike this old all that easily in a local sale. I picked up an olmo gran sport about about as old as this (1960) for a bit less than the asking price for this Capo. Mine was in superb shape cosmetically and all original parts. The parts group was nicer on my bike but the bike was also second from the top of the line with falck tubing,

https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vi...ran-sport.html

I'd want to pay less than $400 for this bike as @juvela suggests but what the heck, bikes this old don't show up all that often.
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Originally Posted by bikemig
You are not likely to find another bike this old all that easily in a local sale. I picked up an olmo gran sport about about as old as this (1960) for a bit less than the asking price for this Capo. Mine was in superb shape cosmetically and all original parts. The parts group was nicer on my bike but the bike was also second from the top of the line with falck tubing,

https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vi...ran-sport.html

I'd want to pay less than $400 for this bike as @juvela suggests but what the heck, bikes this old don't show up all that often.
Wow that Olmo makes this Capo look like a 100.00 bike. Finding any 60's higher end road bike can be daunting. That Olmo was worth the drive, congratulations.

Thanks again for all contributors to my posting.
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Originally Posted by italianbiker
I am picking up a Capo road bike this weekend. Looks to be an all orginal Capo Modell Campagnolo right below the Siger model. Looks to be Reynolds 531 with a Stronglight Crank. I would say in poor to fair condition but certainly has lots of potential, or as expected for a 1960's bike. What value would this fall in.

Capo full bike by rick bog, on Flickr

Capo seat tube b on Flickr
Capo front by , on Flickr
Original wheelset had Campag. high flange QR hubs. Original pedals were Agrati road quills. Your original paint and decals look pretty decent. I splurged on a CyclArt paint job on mine, which I suspect had already been repainted once, anyway. Great sport touring frame geometry for a long ride.
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